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>.< I know this has been said a million times but you have to do something now it is way too easy for Jason to win by animation locking with his grab.

 

Literally the Jasons who do this piss me the heck off Q_Q its becoming so boring honestly when he teleport shift right clicks and goes on to the next person literally that is my main problem I have stated this before! The game is un-enjoyable when Jason swoops in picks you up executes you and moves on to the next target.

Now I know a lot of people are Jason fan girls and will say there is nothing wrong with infinite grabs.... but hello there is the only hope for survival is a pocket knife also is it fair that Jason can get hit by a bat and get knocked out but stop a car and pull someone out a window with little to nothing phasing him these issues need to be fixed , I have noticed mostly jerks play Jason or trolls just to abuse the set you guys gave to him yes you still can survive , yes you still have a chance, but in reality he can shift right click animation ignore and execute and I believe this is a major issue I know Jason is a hulking monster but getting hit by a car should knock him down at least including if the car breaks down and his grab should have a cool down timer or counselors be wounded before he can use it. This is literally all I ask it is the most annoying thing in the game as proven by game play and facts Q_Q please do something please....

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I think a easy fix for Jason's amazing grab is to have Pocket Knives more accessible. Or have something fun like being able to have Reggie (the kid from Friday the 13th: A New Beginning) jump on his back.

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Pointless even trying to discuss any form of changes on here, too many people who think the game is perfect how it is for some bizarre reason.

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I suggested that either counselors be at a certain health before you can grab execute them OR... Jason gets a the same mini-game wheel once he grabs a counselor, if he messes up the button commands, the counselor breaks free. There should be SOMETHING that mitigates the "I WIN" nature of grabbing counselors who didn't find pocket knives at the start of the match.

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Maybe it's  just me,  but I can't shift grab for Shit. Like it seems literally impossible. Maybe it's a connection issue but I have never came out of a shift in an anywhere near useful spot. 

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6 hours ago, Brigadius said:

Maybe it's  just me,  but I can't shift grab for Shit. Like it seems literally impossible. Maybe it's a connection issue but I have never came out of a shift in an anywhere near useful spot. 

It's just you. But you seem to be talking about morph. Morph is more inaccurate.

 

I propose that Jason can't do anything(so he just stands there) for half a second after ending shift. This will stop shift-attacking and shift-grabbing.
Half a second is not a long time, but it should be enough to stop that cheese and turn it into more of a hunt and chase.

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21 minutes ago, Ryve said:

It's just you. But you seem to be talking about morph. Morph is more inaccurate.

 

I propose that Jason can't do anything(so he just stands there) for half a second after ending shift. This will stop shift-attacking and shift-grabbing.
Half a second is not a long time, but it should be enough to stop that cheese and turn it into more of a hunt and chase.

Nope, definitely talking about shift. Been here long enough to know the abilities. I always click grab and he shoots by them and just stands there while they run off. 

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16 minutes ago, Brigadius said:

Nope, definitely talking about shift. Been here long enough to know the abilities. I always click grab and he shoots by them and just stands there while they run off. 

You can't exit shift by pressing grab I think. Just press the shift button again.

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29 minutes ago, Ryve said:

You can't exit shift by pressing grab I think. Just press the shift button again.

I might be mistaken but on console I believe you hit grab to exit. It's not a one button activation on consoles. 

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Well if it helps at all this is for the pc version in the pc version he can exit it by canceling the shift and spawning in front or grabbing either way I believe and I also ran into another glitch where I was unable to jump through a window like the E button just wasn't there but that was the first time that had ever happened to me so maybe I wont run into it again but I notice sometimes the E button just disappears and your left in a guessing game of which position to stand in to successfully open a door , lock it and such which I feel is a major issue along with his grab that should be fixed like that is a game no no I thought? but I know some people will be like well by my calculations your wrong but I have been playing games since I was 8 I am like 20 now by now I feel I have enough information about game to at least know what should be and shouldn't >.< I hope....or I am some kind of illogical creature this world has reformed LOL.

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13 hours ago, Lv1 Magikarp said:

Pointless even trying to discuss any form of changes on here, too many people who think the game is perfect how it is for some bizarre reason.

Nah, we should scrap a pretty solid setup and do it all different. 

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The only changes his grabs need (now that XB1 has the update) is to get rid of the magnetic grip. I've been on both sides of his grab getting people who are clearly out of his range.

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Not true at all literally you should hear how Jason players legit cry when they cant grab you and I am like really boy? that is literally broken then after they attempt to grab you once with a pocket knife and you stab them it is like guess what does not matter going to shift grab you again like there is no defending it at all like none lol IMO it just makes the game end quicker and I can juke I swerve I hit him with the bat I stab him with a knife and he still just shift grab rinse and repeat it is terrible like I am pretty sure the real Jason would feel ashamed of himself if that is all he did in the movies he toyed around with them like this is shameful SHAMEFUL plus I want to cry cause I did all of what I just said and jumped through a window and medicated myself and he broke down the door by pressing E while in rage and came behind me I dodged it went in front of me grabbed me like there is only so much I can do you know before it becomes like unfair IMO.

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Jason is fine the way he is. I've seen plenty of times where the councilors escape Jason or run out time completely running in and out of cabins.

If you keep getting shift grabbed try zig zagging or something else. This has literally never been a problem for me and I've played a ton.

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9 hours ago, Brigadius said:

Maybe it's  just me,  but I can't shift grab for Shit. Like it seems literally impossible. Maybe it's a connection issue but I have never came out of a shift in an anywhere near useful spot. 

Its just you I can do it nearly every time and I have only been Jason maybe like 10 times total. Its rare that I cant grab someone directly out of shift.

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On 6/3/2017 at 3:32 AM, Lunarbella said:

>.< I know this has been said a million times but you have to do something now it is way too easy for Jason to win by animation locking with his grab.

 

Literally the Jasons who do this piss me the heck off Q_Q its becoming so boring honestly when he teleport shift right clicks and goes on to the next person literally that is my main problem I have stated this before! The game is un-enjoyable when Jason swoops in picks you up executes you and moves on to the next target.

Now I know a lot of people are Jason fan girls and will say there is nothing wrong with infinite grabs.... but hello there is the only hope for survival is a pocket knife also is it fair that Jason can get hit by a bat and get knocked out but stop a car and pull someone out a window with little to nothing phasing him these issues need to be fixed , I have noticed mostly jerks play Jason or trolls just to abuse the set you guys gave to him yes you still can survive , yes you still have a chance, but in reality he can shift right click animation ignore and execute and I believe this is a major issue I know Jason is a hulking monster but getting hit by a car should knock him down at least including if the car breaks down and his grab should have a cool down timer or counselors be wounded before he can use it. This is literally all I ask it is the most annoying thing in the game as proven by game play and facts Q_Q please do something please....

Hey I got an idea how about you just make it to where Jason can't kill anyone at all cause that sounds like sssooo much fun I mean it's not like Jason ever grabbed or killed anyone in the films or anything there is absolutely nothing wrong with the grabs just because you struggle in the game doesn't mean that they should change it just so the counselors always get away because that would completely take the fun out of the game and make it useless to play. It's not suppose to be easy for counselors or do you not realize how many people that died in the movies making it to where it's easy for counselors to not die is a complete waste and would be a disgrace to the franchise. If you want to survive do this thing called TEAMWORK. Doing that at most I've died like 9 times out of the 57 games I've played.

 

14 hours ago, Lunarbella said:

Not true at all literally you should hear how Jason players legit cry when they cant grab you and I am like really boy? that is literally broken then after they attempt to grab you once with a pocket knife and you stab them it is like guess what does not matter going to shift grab you again like there is no defending it at all like none lol IMO it just makes the game end quicker and I can juke I swerve I hit him with the bat I stab him with a knife and he still just shift grab rinse and repeat it is terrible like I am pretty sure the real Jason would feel ashamed of himself if that is all he did in the movies he toyed around with them like this is shameful SHAMEFUL plus I want to cry cause I did all of what I just said and jumped through a window and medicated myself and he broke down the door by pressing E while in rage and came behind me I dodged it went in front of me grabbed me like there is only so much I can do you know before it becomes like unfair IMO.

I don't know what kind of bootleg fan made crap movies you been watching but he NEVER toyed with his victims once he got within range or got his hands on them it was a wrap. Don't try to disgrace this Jason's good name by stating those atrocious comments I grew up on the Friday the 13th films I've got them all I've watched every movie at least 47 times and know them like the back of my hand it may have seemed like he toyed with them but that was the chase not him toying.

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1 hour ago, Brigadius said:

I might be mistaken but on console I believe you hit grab to exit. It's not a one button activation on consoles. 

On PS4 you can exit shift with a grab, not exit shift and then grab. You can literally grab someone before they can see that you are there.

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Like I said Jason fan girls lol.... I did not say he isn't a bad ass but he definitely did not grab execute every single one of them I know that for a fact and you can get hurt by it but this is a video game not a movie, video games reach a certain standard just like movies it was not men't to offend anyone's passionate love for Jason that is great but this is a video game and requires certain updates and patches his grab being one of them I have never missed a shift grab IDK how you miss it when his grab is literally magnetic right now. Get mad all you like but I am very factual and I will not argue with anyone because everyone always has something to say I am saying there is a right way to handle things and a wrong way especially in the gamer community. *shrugs* I did not try to get anyone mad but I know the littlest things get people mad now at days and for that I apologize but this is a video game not a movie remember that I cant emphasize that enough. You have a very negative attitude and I bet you made that account just to do so please escort your childish actions outside of my forum post thank you.

21 minutes ago, Cyb3rReapet said:

Hey I got an idea how about you just make it to where Jason can't kill anyone at all cause that sounds like sssooo much fun I mean it's not like Jason ever grabbed or killed anyone in the films or anything there is absolutely nothing wrong with the grabs just because you struggle in the game doesn't mean that they should change it just so the counselors always get away because that would completely take the fun out of the game and make it useless to play. It's not suppose to be easy for counselors or do you not realize how many people that died in the movies making it to where it's easy for counselors to not die is a complete waste and would be a disgrace to the franchise. If you want to survive do this thing called TEAMWORK. Doing that at most I've died like 9 times out of the 57 games I've played.

14 minutes ago, Cyb3rReapet said:

I don't know what kind of bootleg fan made crap movies you been watching but he NEVER toyed with his victims once he got within range or got his hands on them it was a wrap. Don't try to disgrace this Jason's good name by stating those atrocious comments I grew up on the Friday the 13th films I've got them all I've watched every movie at least 47 times and know them like the back of my hand it may have seemed like he toyed with them but that was the chase not him toying.

 

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26 minutes ago, Cyb3rReapet said:

Hey I got an idea how about you just make it to where Jason can't kill anyone at all cause that sounds like sssooo much fun I mean it's not like Jason ever grabbed or killed anyone in the films or anything there is absolutely nothing wrong with the grabs just because you struggle in the game doesn't mean that they should change it just so the counselors always get away because that would completely take the fun out of the game and make it useless to play. It's not suppose to be easy for counselors or do you not realize how many people that died in the movies making it to where it's easy for counselors to not die is a complete waste and would be a disgrace to the franchise. If you want to survive do this thing called TEAMWORK. Doing that at most I've died like 9 times out of the 57 games I've played.

You have been facing some horrible Jasons then.

What you say is also utter nonsense, but I'll try to keep it simple so you too can understand.

With a simple and small change, we can get rid of the cheese that is shift-grabbing.
This will in no way make it easy for the survivors.
The change I propose is that Jason can't do anything for half a second after shifting.
That's really short, and that's all it takes.

I actually already play as if this change were implemented and people have told me multiple times I am the most fun Jason they have played against, even though I wiped the board with them, but without using cheese.
In these games I prove that this small change fixes the problem and improves the game on a whole, without taking away from Jason's power.
All shift-grabbing does is allow horrible Jasons to still get some kills, even though they suck at the game.

This game is about hunting and chasing, then killing.
Not about shifting, then grabbing and then killing.

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Let me put it to you simply IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT GO PLAY DEAD BY DAYLIGHT I'm sorry that you are both bad at the game the reason you probably get shift grabbed a lot is because you possibly run in a straight line don't want to die by grabs easily then find the little things they placed in the game called pocket knives and childish I was watching this since before you probably were in diapers and leave YOUR forum sorry sir but this is public and I have every right to voice my opinion just like you I don't want people who are apparently not that good at a game to ruin it for the majority of us who are having NO issues with the grabs at all.

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7 hours ago, Cyb3rReapet said:

Let me put it to you simply IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT GO PLAY DEAD BY DAYLIGHT I'm sorry that you are both bad at the game the reason you probably get shift grabbed a lot is because you possibly run in a straight line don't want to die by grabs easily then find the little things they placed in the game called pocket knives and childish I was watching this since before you probably were in diapers and leave YOUR forum sorry sir but this is public and I have every right to voice my opinion just like you I don't want people who are apparently not that good at a game to ruin it for the majority of us who are having NO issues with the grabs at all.

Once again, from the people who don't want the nerf, all we hear is Git Gud and crying, but no actual arguments....

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2 hours ago, Ryve said:

Once again, from the people who don't want the nerf, all we hear is Git Gud and crying, but no actual arguments....

You're hearing plenty of arguments, you just don't agree with them. Most people DON'T want the game changed. We like how OP Jason is and we don't want people who have a hard time with the game having it changed so it's easy. It's not supposed to be easy. Escaping or living is supposed to be rare, not the norm,  so if you don't like dying I agree with Cy3er you should play something easier.

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22 minutes ago, cslyles76 said:

You're hearing plenty of arguments, you just don't agree with them. Most people DON'T want the game changed. We like how OP Jason is and we don't want people who have a hard time with the game having it changed so it's easy. It's not supposed to be easy. Escaping or living is supposed to be rare, not the norm,  so if you don't like dying I agree with Cy3er you should play something easier.

Once again you people say dumb things. I have yet to hear any arguments from people that are true and are not just: "we like it that way".
We never said we wanted the game to be easy, and time after time I say this that time after time, when I'm playing Jason, I kill everyone without a single shift-grab.
Removing shift-grab doesn't make the game easy, it just removes the cheese.
You people are just crying because if this is changed, you'd just lose the only way you're able to get your kills.
Maybe you just need to learn to play Jason better so that you don't have to rely on shift-grabbing.
If you already don't rely on shift-grabbing, then why care if it's removed.

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Well everyone is going to have a different opinion. Whether someone feels it is right or wrong is also that persons opinion. However both are entitled to their opinions. 

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1 hour ago, Ryve said:

Once again you people say dumb things. I have yet to hear any arguments from people that are true and are not just: "we like it that way".
We never said we wanted the game to be easy, and time after time I say this that time after time, when I'm playing Jason, I kill everyone without a single shift-grab.
Removing shift-grab doesn't make the game easy, it just removes the cheese.
You people are just crying because if this is changed, you'd just lose the only way you're able to get your kills.
Maybe you just need to learn to play Jason better so that you don't have to rely on shift-grabbing.
If you already don't rely on shift-grabbing, then why care if it's removed.

Once again, you don't like the argument so you just dismiss it. I don't shift grab as Jason, but I don't mind when it happens to me. It's part of the game and if you're caught by Jason out in the open then that's what happens. Learn to use stealth and tactics to avoid Jason and this really wouldn't be an issue for you. If you do run into Jason then your chances of survival should be very low so shit-grab doesn't bother me.

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