Why is killing baby Jason looked down upon?

[Ih8teamers 10]

I ve heard you shouldn't kill.baby jasons cause it ll scare them off but i ve honestly have never seen a baby Jason get that angry you killed them. Most will just ready up and be ready for the next match. It seems it's the veteran players that tend to get all angry and rage quit

[Carlso 137]

The killing is okay. The issue is the bullying and harassing that comes with it. Doing it to people not experienced enough to defend themselves is straight up bullsh1t and pathetic.

[Jason Todd Voorhees 766]

I just dont care tbh lol 

[I'm Not a Goalie 279]

10 hours ago, Ih8teamers said:

I ve heard you shouldn't kill.baby jasons cause it ll scare them off but i ve honestly have never seen a baby Jason get that angry you killed them. Most will just ready up and be ready for the next match. It seems it's the veteran players that tend to get all angry and rage quit

This used to be the case for me, scaring new players away from the game, but at this stage of the game it's a moot point. With me, it's always been a challenge issue. What are you proving by killing a Jason in his first or second match, someone who probably doesn't even realize he can be killed yet?  I'm going after the 150 Savini every time, but that's just me.

6 hours ago, Carlso said:

The killing is okay. The issue is the bullying and harassing that comes with it. Doing it to people not experienced enough to defend themselves is straight up bullsh1t and pathetic.

This, for the most part. I'm still not going to bother to kill a Jason when there's no challenge involved, (there's always exceptions) but I have far bigger issues with the verbal harassment that severely crosses the line of your standard competitive trash talk. It is funny as hell though to watch someone trying to troll a noob Jason only to fuck up and get themselves killed.

[ULTIMA 44]

why not?

all jasons run the risk of getting killed. since its relatively no easy task, newbs and pros alike are equal and fair game.

[glowing ooze 267]

On 6/17/2021 at 10:12 AM, Jason Todd Voorhees said:

I just dont care tbh lol 

same. i spawn in for action, not to make sure everybodys butt isnt hurt by a video game. they will learn & if they have any interest in the game, they will continue to play.

i frown apon the verbal harrassment, but that problem is solved with the push of a button. the mute button. so please, mute those A-holes.

[Carlso 137]

7 hours ago, ULTIMA said:

since its relatively no easy task

hmmmm

[TimDuke 01 281]

8 hours ago, ULTIMA said:

since its relatively no easy task

I did a spit-take on that one. NO easy task? ROFLMA it's arguably the easiest win condition for counselors.

[Fair Play 5,601]

On 6/17/2021 at 5:13 AM, Ih8teamers said:

I ve heard you shouldn't kill.baby jasons cause it ll scare them off but i ve honestly have never seen a baby Jason get that angry you killed them. Most will just ready up and be ready for the next match. It seems it's the veteran players that tend to get all angry and rage quit

Kill an inexperienced Jason once? They'll get over it. Kill that same Jason ten times in a row? That might frustrate them to the point of quitting. Not all rookie Jason players will take it personally if they lose.

[ULTIMA 44]

3 hours ago, TimDuke 01 said:

I did a spit-take on that one. NO easy task? ROFLMA it's arguably the easiest win condition for counselors.

if its a party of counsels, sure.

if its a moshpit of retards, then no, they are not gonna try to kill jason.

[TimDuke 01 281]

I killed a Jason player not trying.If it were actually as difficult as it should be,we wouldn't be discussing this to begin with.Even a level 1 player with barely a clue should have a very good chance to thwart off a group of 150 level Jason killers but that's just my opinion.

[Jason Todd Voorhees 766]

On 6/18/2021 at 3:01 PM, glowing ooze said:

i spawn in for action, not to make sure everybodys butt isnt hurt by a video game.

/Thread

[GeneiJin 564]

Why is it frowned upon? 

Because no one believes in Tough Love anymore.

[nico 20]

honestly, i don’t see anything wrong with it. if anything, i believe it’ll help that player learn from their mistakes and only make em come back stronger, practice makes perfect, yeah? it’s all part of the game... what are we supposed to do, let them kill us? whole point of the game is to not die, and that goes for both sides but like somebody else said, there’s no need for harassment... it’s all for fun 

[HaHaTrumpWon 1,227]

On 6/18/2021 at 2:32 PM, ULTIMA said:

since its relatively no easy task

You sir are full of shit.

[ULTIMA 44]

On 6/23/2021 at 1:42 PM, HaHaTrumpWon said:

You sir are full of shit.

*madam

 

also, i meant hard in the sense of cooperation

you have to rally the horde and hope they are on board, or pray youre in a match with people who intend on killing him.

 

of ALL the 1000 matches i had as counsel, do you know how many ended with jason dying?  23.

23 out of 1000 matches.

25 if we count the two times i died as jason.

[HaHaTrumpWon 1,227]

On 6/26/2021 at 10:06 PM, ULTIMA said:

*madam

 

also, i meant hard in the sense of cooperation

you have to rally the horde and hope they are on board, or pray youre in a match with people who intend on killing him.

 

of ALL the 1000 matches i had as counsel, do you know how many ended with jason dying?  23.

23 out of 1000 matches.

25 if we count the two times i died as jason.

If you're in a random lobby by yourself and decide you want to try and kill Jason, yes, communication might make things difficult if all you've got to work with are a bunch of retards. When I kill Jason, it's usually with the same group of friends I've played with for the better part of two years. We don't really need to communicate unless it's something dire (teamers, shitheads driving around running people over, etc...)

We killed this Jason (who was at least lv 113) with zero communication. No voice chatting, no mic use, not even a private message. Bear in mind that this kill was done with only two people (including myself) and without help from the rest of the counselors. 

Does any part of that look difficult to you?

[ULTIMA 44]

thats the thing, i always played alone. none of my friends had this. some didnt even knew it existed.

[GeneiJin 564]

@ULTIMA It's as @HaHaTrumpWon says, Killing Jason is easy and pretty simple.  I'd say that I have a 3/10 games that I orchestrate Jason dying in a random lobby.  I main Jenny and I play without a Mic.  If with Vanessa and w/ Mic, maybe 5-6 or of Ten.  If I bring 1 or more players around my skill level and coordinate, Jason's gonna die almost guarantee.

[HaHaTrumpWon 1,227]

5 hours ago, GeneiJin said:

@ULTIMA It's as @HaHaTrumpWon says, Killing Jason is easy and pretty simple.  I'd say that I have a 3/10 games that I orchestrate Jason dying in a random lobby.  I main Jenny and I play without a Mic.  If with Vanessa and w/ Mic, maybe 5-6 or of Ten.  If I bring 1 or more players around my skill level and coordinate, Jason's gonna die almost guarantee.

The hardest part by far of killing Jason is finding him and getting killed before he off's somebody else. The second hardest part is trying to keep the rest of the counselors from fucking up the kill, I.E. double-tapping Jason, getting the sweater without the slightest idea what they're doing, physically getting in Jason's way when you're trying to bait him into killing you, etc... most of the time it's an innocent mistake by someone who genuinely just wanted to help (it sure as hell better be. Ruin our kill on purpose and I promise you're next).

Aside from that, killing Jason is laughably easy to do. A couple of gunshots and a few hits of a machete and your mask is kaput. Once it's off and the sweater's taken, Jason's in deep shit. Feel like calling the cops? Just have Tommy and SG go fix ithe phone and then stand beside it while someone calls. What's Jason going to do about it? Run over and break the box? Yeah... good luck with that.

As long as Tommy and SG are close by, counselors can go repair any objective they want and Jason has to pick between allowing them to escape or trying to stop them and dying in the process. Imagine how humiliating and degrading it would feel if you were Jason in that situation. The counselors are right in front of you having a dance party while someone fixes the car. They're easily within Shift range but Tommy and SG are right in the middle of them, swinging weapons at each other and literally daring you to come stop them.

[Mayday 86]

Why not ignore the players who try to hit you early in the match, and kill 2 inexperienced players first? The people you fear won't be Jarvis.

If killing Jason is easy to do, it is easy to kill an inexperienced Jarvis who will run like a chicken without controlling his stamina.

[I'm Not a Goalie 279]

43 minutes ago, Mayday said:

Why not ignore the players who try to hit you early in the match, and kill 2 inexperienced players first? The people you fear won't be Jarvis.

If killing Jason is easy to do, it is easy to kill an inexperienced Jarvis who will run like a chicken without controlling his stamina.

You just described my primary strategy for dealing with would be Jason Killers. Hardest thing for any kill squad to overcome is a clueless Tommy. At the very least, I'm not killing anyone early on whose obviously trying to demask me or draw Tommy. A good kill squad can find ways around trapping the shack or Tommy's cabin. This game is buggy as all hell, but last time I checked Tommy has never killed Jason with a battery or frying pan in his hand because he can't understand why the crazy bitch in the sweater keeps throwing her axe at his feet. This strategy can backfire on you on occasion, but's it extremely rare. It's also amazing how quickly mid-tier kill squads crumble into dust once the kill is taken off the table.

2 hours ago, HaHaTrumpWon said:

As long as Tommy and SG are close by, counselors can go repair any objective they want and Jason has to pick between allowing them to escape or trying to stop them and dying in the process. Imagine how humiliating and degrading it would feel if you were Jason in that situation. The counselors are right in front of you having a dance party while someone fixes the car. They're easily within Shift range but Tommy and SG are right in the middle of them, swinging weapons at each other and literally daring you to come stop them.

Funny story, many moons ago I was playing keep-away with a four-person squad who must've thought I was hiding in the water or something because they decided to have a dance party in front of Packanack Lodge. I decided I probably wasn't going to get a better shot with their guards down, so I said fuck it, shifted right on their sweater girl and chock killed her right in the middle of their little drum circle before any of them could react. THEY.WERE.PISSED. I've never been called trash or garbage so much in my life, and I loved every second of it. 

Obviously I wouldn't recommend anyone try this unless your in 'fuck it' mode like I was, since I was one PK or attentive counselor away from being completely boned. In this one particular case though, it worked out and was more than worth the risk for the reaction I got after. 

[HaHaTrumpWon 1,227]

21 hours ago, I'm Not a Goalie said:

You just described my primary strategy for dealing with would be Jason Killers. Hardest thing for any kill squad to overcome is a clueless Tommy. At the very least, I'm not killing anyone early on whose obviously trying to demask me or draw Tommy. A good kill squad can find ways around trapping the shack or Tommy's cabin. This game is buggy as all hell, but last time I checked Tommy has never killed Jason with a battery or frying pan in his hand because he can't understand why the crazy bitch in the sweater keeps throwing her axe at his feet. This strategy can backfire on you on occasion, but's it extremely rare. It's also amazing how quickly mid-tier kill squads crumble into dust once the kill is taken off the table.

Funny story, many moons ago I was playing keep-away with a four-person squad who must've thought I was hiding in the water or something because they decided to have a dance party in front of Packanack Lodge. I decided I probably wasn't going to get a better shot with their guards down, so I said fuck it, shifted right on their sweater girl and chock killed her right in the middle of their little drum circle before any of them could react. THEY.WERE.PISSED. I've never been called trash or garbage so much in my life, and I loved every second of it. 

Obviously I wouldn't recommend anyone try this unless your in 'fuck it' mode like I was, since I was one PK or attentive counselor away from being completely boned. In this one particular case though, it worked out and was more than worth the risk for the reaction I got after. 

A long while back, I was Jason on Higgens large with a lobby that would group up around the car or phone and begin repairing. When Jason showed up to stop them, they would commence the pinata party until the mask was off, then a couple of them would get killed, come back as Tommy, and kill that rounds Jason.

Predictably, I found them working on the 4-seater (it spawned at the Southern location, very close to where most counselors begin swimming to the island). I killed a couple of them, then Tommy showed up and I lost my mask. As soon as I did, I turned around and walked into the lake and headed towards the island. A couple of minutes later, they pulled the old "Get Jason to drown someone and use the time window to get to the island". 

One problem... the shack wasn't ON the island, it was over on the West side of the map. Tommy and two Tiffany's made it to the island just fine, but then realized they were trapped and had just royally fucked themselves. 

[82912 5]

On 7/8/2021 at 6:53 AM, Mayday said:

Why not ignore the players who try to hit you early in the match, and kill 2 inexperienced players first? The people you fear won't be Jarvis.

If killing Jason is easy to do, it is easy to kill an inexperienced Jarvis who will run like a chicken without controlling his stamina.

idk is that really fair? killing the newer player who doesnt know what he's doing and hoping they become tommy?

[Mayday 86]

14 hours ago, 82912 said:

idk is that really fair? killing the newer player who doesnt know what he's doing and hoping they become tommy?

It's always the same scenario that I see as a spectator. The 2 players who hit you early in the game don't care about dying, THEY WANT TO BECOME Tommy. They quickly unmask Jason to the death. When Tommy arrives, Jason is already unmasked and Jarvis' boyfriend just has to take the sweater. Ignore them so that one of them is not Jarvis.  You will keep your mask, at least longer also. 🙂