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I apologize if this isn’t allowed to be asked here, but out of curiosity, if somebody buys the Savini Jason  DLC from eBay (they sell for PC and Xbox One), can they be banned for this? A friend of mine bought from eBay and they received instructions to log into an account and download DLC from there. Isn’t multiple accounts used this way against Microsoft’s rules? Or is this altogether not actually bannable? There has to be a way for either the counsel/PC or the game itself to detect things like this.  Without the fact of somebody being a really low level and it being obvious of course. The main thing I’m curious about is for somebody to log into another account in order to download DLC - that alone could get somebody banned, am I right?

Again I apologize in advance if I’m not supposed to be asking this here. 

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As for PC, I am going to assume it's one of the various methods available to PC users and would likely result in detection and a ban by Steam and it's anticheat partners.

As for Xbox, there is the possibility that Microsoft could detect the multiple users accessing an account and ban the accounts/consoles that logged into that ebay purchased account. If Gun decided to buy these auctions to get the account(s) information they could pass  it onto Microsoft to take action or Gun could potentially ban the accounts from accessing the F13thegame servers. I really don't see it happening given that it's been 2 years and nothing has been done about it. Years ago Microsoft took action for something similar on the Xbox 360 when people were using a variety of "dummy" accounts to share games and DLC on online forums. A bunch of Xbox 360 accounts that logged into those "Silver" profiles to do the "Second Profile Glitch" to get "free" games were banned from Xbox Live.  I am unaware of this occurring on Xbox One and technically speaking the issue with the DLC for this game is an entirely different issue that is not necessarily caused by intentional manipulation of the Xbox store purchases like was done with the "Second Profile Glitch" on Xbox 360.

It would probably still be a Code of Conduct or Terms of Use violation but it technically may not be different than going to a friends house that owns the DLC and signing into your Xbox account. Just as it may no different than your friend going to your house, signing into their account and then installing the DLC for you. I think the concern is the number of people doing this with a singular account or a handful of accounts as opposed to finding a friend who was a backer or downloaded the DLC when it was accidently listed for free on the xbox.com store page. I still don't think anything is going to be done about it for this game. Most other games have DRM or the DLC is unlocked and tied to the MSID and there is nothing available to download in "ready to install".

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The reason the instructions are for this on Xbox is because for this specific game, no DRM was placed on the paid DLC purchased from a redemption code or from DLC purchased on xbox.com or through the Xbox One console itself. Savini and the Counselor Clothing pack were also temporarily free on xbox.com. There was also someone selling codes for these items that had access to a database available at a 3rd party vender Gun was using. These ebay seller(s) likely have the foresight and were aware that there was no DRM on DLC for this game and setup multiple Xbox accounts so they could make thousands of dollars doing this for as long as the game is played and people were willing to buy it. These sellers likely change the passwords on these profiles once the buyers confirm the DLC was attached to their account so they can keep selling access to the same account(s) over and over again.

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These seller(s) are likely selling access to a "dummy" account that has purchased these DLC items from any of the various methods that have been available (kickstarter, backerkit, xbox.com or a code reseller). When you log into that account and go into "ready to install" under Friday the 13th: the game you will see the Savini and/or Counselor Clothing Pack as available to install. Once installed, you then load into the game on your actual account and not the one you purchased access to.

Since Illfonic, Gun and/or Microsoft forgot or chose not to put DRM on paid DLC for this game it becomes attached or stuck to any account that logs into the game where the DLC is installed on that Xbox. There may also be some sort of backend issue that is causing the Online Progression system to permanently keep this DLC unlocked to your account even when it's uninstalled but the lack of DRM is causing it to occur in the first place. Once you do this, you don't need to have access to that other account and you don't even need to keep the DLC installed on your Xbox. Anyone can test this for themselves by uninstalling any DLC purchased from a redemption code, xbox.com or the Xbox One. The funny thing is that the DLC loaded off the original disc and the Slasher Edition disc does have DRM on it and has to remain installed.

It's NOT even limited to the backer DLC. It's any DLC purchased on the Xbox One or xbox.com including the ones they still charge for in the Xbox Store. People keep asking about this and @mattshotcha still asks if they are referring to "gamesharing" which is My Home Xbox and is not what is going on here.

 

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The other thing with the DLC from either of the disc releases is that it can be shared an unlimited number of times by passing the disc around or renting the disc from a video game store. The Xbox One doesn't distinguish between disc and digital so you don't even need the disc in the console once the DLC is installed if you own the game digitally. While the disc DLC does have DRM there are no redemption codes and the DLC installation is initiated off the disc from the Xbox menu settings.

 

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On a side note, there being no DRM on paid DLC for this game is the ONLY reason the conflict with the Part 7 Kill pack and the Disc Exclusive Clothing Pack has a workaround. When you load up the game with both of these DLC items installed, the kill pack will automatically uninstall itself. If you try to reinstall the kill pack the clothing pack uninstalls itself. Whatever the reason, this issue prevents the DLC from showing up in game since the disc DLC has DRM so you have to purchase the Part 7 Kill Pack separately in the Xbox Store and then keep it uninstalled otherwise it and the Disc Clothing Pack will uninstall and disappear in game. The reason the DLC uninstalls by itself is probably a backend issue with these files having duplicate information like the same fileID. The other thing that happens is the Halloween pack renames itself to the same name as the disc exclusive clothing pack but that doesn't cause any problems in game.

More information about that issue can be found here: 

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Please Note: I AM NOT ONE OF THESE SELLERS AND I HAVE NOT PURCHASED ANYTHING FROM THEM. I have this DLC because I was a backer and own the digital game and the first disc release for Xbox. I have come to these findings and conclusions based upon my own attempts to figure out a workaround to the existing issue with the Part 7 Kill Pack and the Disc Exclusive Counselor Clothing pack. The answers I have provided are based upon this information some of which has been provided by others in various posts asking or talking about how and why people are able to sell DLC for this game without a code on Xbox.

 

If the devs/mods feel this information is not something they want posted on their forum then they may delete/edit this post. If they would at least acknowledge the issue and do something about people might stop asking about it. I don't think the DRM issue will ever be addressed.

 

 

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To put it simply: yes, it is something you can be banned for. If you didn't buy SJ when you had the chance and Gun discovers you have him, then you will have obtained him illegitimately and consequently, you can be banned at their discretion. Don't do it. Closing this thread.

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