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13 hours ago, badassgixxer05 said:

Sorry to hear, but Im a 35yold male and I get called all types of shit in this game too. Heck i've been solicited sexual acts(from male and female) to not kill them in game and what not multiple times over. Nothing you can do but laugh it off. Sticks and stones. I know thats like an 80s/90s saying, but they really need to bring that back. People are getting way too soft these days...

Ever hear of Gamergate? There are people online that take harassment of female gamers to an entirely different level. As men, we have the ability to laugh it off because it doesn’t happen nearly as routinely as it does for the opposite sex. It’s an example of male entitlement. Yes, muting players is an option, but it shouldn’t ever have to come to that. They really should be banned. 

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4 minutes ago, CountYorgaVampir said:

Ever hear of Gamergate? There are people online that take harassment of female gamers to an entirely different level. As men, we have the ability to laugh it off because it doesn’t happen nearly as routinely as it does for the opposite sex. It’s an example of male entitlement. Yes, muting players is an option, but it shouldn’t ever have to come to that. They really should be banned. 

you can believe what ever you want, im just saying I hear just as many dudes getting harrassed on a daily basis(obviously more guys game them women)but It 100% happens to both. Cut the gender me too bs already. Because im a guy i should be able to take it better then a girl? Give me a break if that isn't slighted in the least bit. Where are my rights!!?? Oh i dont have any, im a dude... but like I said sticks and stones..

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15 hours ago, badassgixxer05 said:

Sorry to hear, but Im a 35yold male and I get called all types of shit in this game too. Heck i've been solicited sexual acts(from male and female) to not kill them in game and what not multiple times over. Nothing you can do but laugh it off. Sticks and stones. I know thats like an 80s/90s saying, but they really need to bring that back. People are getting way too soft these days...

No one should have to tolerate harassment of any kind, whether it is a teenage female and an adult male.

This holds true in any game, forum, or other form of interaction with people.

1 hour ago, CountYorgaVampir said:

Ever hear of Gamergate? There are people online that take harassment of female gamers to an entirely different level. As men, we have the ability to laugh it off because it doesn’t happen nearly as routinely as it does for the opposite sex. It’s an example of male entitlement. Yes, muting players is an option, but it shouldn’t ever have to come to that. They really should be banned. 

Regardless of the frequency of harassment, it is inexcusable in any instance. I know young ladies that are psychologically tough as nails, and I know some guys who are rather sensitive. People (male and female alike) need to consider what they say and how it may impact others they interact with.

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3 hours ago, badassgixxer05 said:

you can believe what ever you want, im just saying I hear just as many dudes getting harrassed on a daily basis(obviously more guys game them women)but It 100% happens to both. Cut the gender me too bs already. Because im a guy i should be able to take it better then a girl? Give me a break if that isn't slighted in the least bit. Where are my rights!!?? Oh i dont have any, im a dude... but like I said sticks and stones..

Everybody has rights, but that wasn’t what I am saying. I’m a guy too, but I am also aware that women get sexually harassed and discriminated against a thousand times more than we do. Just yesterday, a women got denied a world record because she didn’t wear a skirt for fuck’s sakes. If you think that you are being discriminated against or propositioned just as equally as any woman then you are so in fucking denial that you’re insane. 

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1 hour ago, CountYorgaVampir said:

Just yesterday, a women got denied a world record because she didn’t wear a skirt for fuck’s sakes.

That was a damn shame...

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7 hours ago, CountYorgaVampir said:

Everybody has rights, but that wasn’t what I am saying. I’m a guy too, but I am also aware that women get sexually harassed and discriminated against a thousand times more than we do. Just yesterday, a women got denied a world record because she didn’t wear a skirt for fuck’s sakes. If you think that you are being discriminated against or propositioned just as equally as any woman then you are so in fucking denial that you’re insane. 

Ok, I don't really want to get into this, but my bullshit detector was going off.

The incident you're referring to was for a Guinness World Record that had specific guidelines, which the woman was told before.  The world record she was trying to break was a world record for running a marathon while wearing a specific uniform, including wearing a skirt.  Again, she knew this; instead of complying with the rules, she wanted to make some sort of statement as to how "sexist" it was to not be allowed to break the record while not following the same criteria as every woman before her who had set the record.

Maybe it's harder to run wearing the skirt the whole time.  Maybe it's easier.  I don't know and I don't care.  I also wouldn't have the gall to brazenly break the rules of an organization and then tell them that THEY are wrong.  Especially for something so silly as this.

This is akin to showing up to a dinner that was described as "formal attire" beforehand wearing overalls and then crying discrimination.

In other words, your example was actually a perfect demonstration of what @badassgixxer05 was referring to: the era of hurt feelings.

Lastly, we all know how this will play out: the Guinness organization will most likely give in because of public outcry over this "injustice," which really isn't an injustice at all, and award this woman the new record...even though the women who broke it before will be totally disregarded.  And more and more people will be encouraged to continue to whine for whatever they think they "deserve," and the snowball keeps rolling.

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36 minutes ago, gtdjlocker311 said:

Ok, I don't really want to get into this, but my bullshit detector was going off.

The incident you're referring to was for a Guinness World Record that had specific guidelines, which the woman was told before.  The world record she was trying to break was a world record for running a marathon while wearing a specific uniform, including wearing a skirt.  Again, she knew this; instead of complying with the rules, she wanted to make some sort of statement as to how "sexist" it was to not be allowed to break the record while not following the same criteria as every woman before her who had set the record.

Maybe it's harder to run wearing the skirt the whole time.  Maybe it's easier.  I don't know and I don't care.  I also wouldn't have the gall to brazenly break the rules of an organization and then tell them that THEY are wrong.  Especially for something so silly as this.

This is akin to showing up to a dinner that was described as "formal attire" beforehand wearing overalls and then crying discrimination.

In other words, your example was actually a perfect demonstration of what @badassgixxer05 was referring to: the era of hurt feelings.

Lastly, we all know how this will play out: the Guinness organization will most likely give in because of public outcry over this "injustice," which really isn't an injustice at all, and award this woman the new record...even though the women who broke it before will be totally disregarded.  And more and more people will be encouraged to continue to whine for whatever they think they "deserve," and the snowball keeps rolling.

/rant

Nurses don’t wear skirts and haven’t for decades, they wear exactly what she was wearing. My wife, who is a nurse, doesn’t wear skirts to work. Yes, she disobeyed the rules but that doesn’t mean that the rules themselves aren’t sexist. They deserve to be protested. People like you would just prefer for people (in this case, women) to shut up and eat other people’s shit, I guess. 

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7 minutes ago, CountYorgaVampir said:

Nurses don’t wear skirts and haven’t for decades, they wear exactly what she was wearing. My wife, who is a nurse, doesn’t wear skirts to work. Yes, she disobeyed the rules but that doesn’t mean that the rules themselves aren’t sexist. They deserve to be protested. People like you would just prefer for people (in this case, women) to shut up and eat other people’s shit, I guess. 

The same as you expect everyone to bend to your views.....

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15 minutes ago, badassgixxer05 said:

The same as you expect everyone to bend to your views.....

Oh fuck you. I am not. Stop claiming to be the one being victimized here. Oh yes, me sharing my views is SOOO threatening to you. Why don’t you crawl back into your echo chamber/safe space already if you can’t deal. 

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Just now, CountYorgaVampir said:

Oh fuck you. I am not. Stop claiming to be the one being victimized here. Oh yes, me sharing my views is SOOO threatening to you. Why don’t you crawl back into your echo chamber/safe space already. 

Sounds like you need the safe space bud. I was accepting of your opinion and just stated mine. You completely disregard mine and demand i see the same as you. That's the difference between us. We need less of your type in this world if we are ever going to come together on any subject. But please continue to throw out vulgarities and stomp your feet like a child...

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2 minutes ago, badassgixxer05 said:

Sounds like you need the safe space bud. I was accepting of your opinion and just stated mine. You completely disregard mine and demand i see the same as you. That's the difference between us. We need less of your type in this world if we are ever going to come together on any subject. But please continue to throw out vulgarities and stomp your feet like a child...

I didn’t demand anything. Funny how me expressing my opinion is automatically viewed as something that I am “forcing” onto you. Again, you’re playing the victim card. Saying that we can’t “come together” on any subject is a laugh when you can’t even handle one single sentence you disagree with without posting a multi paragraph diatribe and then whining about how I am forcing you to think in a way you don’t want to. Well, I accept the fact that you have absolutely no interest in equal rights. I’m still going to speak out for them anyways. 

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1 minute ago, CountYorgaVampir said:

I didn’t demand anything. Funny how me expressing my opinion is automatically viewed as something that I am “forcing” onto you. Again, you’re playing the victim card. Saying that we can’t “come together” on any subject is a laugh when you can’t even handle one single sentence you disagree with without posting a multi paragraph diatribe and then whining about how I am forcing you to think in a way you don’t want to. Well, I accept the fact that you have absolutely no interest in equal rights. I’m still going to speak out for them anyways. 

Agree to disagree. I'm going to take the high road here.. ✌️

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This is probably the main reason I prefer to play without using a headset,  so I can enjoy the game without having to hear the trolls and assholes.  Regardless of what your age is, if you enjoy the game with good players, then never let the assholes bring you down. Pardon the pun,  but never let them see you bleed. No, seriously, the best lesson in life is to live for the moment and never let others ruin it for you. I'm 45 years old and have no regrets gaming, win or lose. I've been watching horror movies since I was 5, jaws was my first, and it's my favorite genre. There are good people in this forum and you did right to reach out to them. You have every right to enjoy this game or any other as it was intended without the assholes trying to ruin it.  In short, stay strong, survive the night, and live to enjoy another day. Cheers

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21 minutes ago, SonofOdin6039 said:

This is probably the main reason I prefer to play without using a headset,  so I can enjoy the game without having to hear the trolls and assholes.  Regardless of what your age is, if you enjoy the game with good players, then never let the assholes bring you down. Pardon the pun,  but never let them see you bleed. No, seriously, the best lesson in life is to live for the moment and never let others ruin it for you. I'm 45 years old and have no regrets gaming, win or lose. I've been watching horror movies since I was 5, jaws was my first, and it's my favorite genre. There are good people in this forum and you did right to reach out to them. You have every right to enjoy this game or any other as it was intended without the assholes trying to ruin it.  In short, stay strong, survive the night, and live to enjoy another day. Cheers

People interactions in this game is the best part. Good or bad I always have a fun time. I'd say 90% of my steam friends came from this game. The few bad apples out there try to ruin it for everyone, but the best thing is just to ignore them and they go away. Trolls only prey looking for reactions. Without them, they get bored and move on..

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Now thats not right....I hate harassment and bullying....Two things I utterly depise......Im sorry to hear this happens, its best to get yojr male friends so they can dog them like they dog you.

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On 5/4/2019 at 2:25 PM, SteadyGosling said:

I feel like I’ve never brought this into a public scale with the forums, but here’s a short way to simplify what I’m trying to say.

For the past year, as a female player i really cannot tell you I’ve Gone a day without getting called vulgar and inappropriate shit (even after I tell them I’m 15 and to stop clearly). This is what the main driving away factor is currently, isn’t the game but honestly the fan base... 

Im 15, but even after i point that out, I still get called sexual and vulgar shit on here. 

Also here’s a main point, Every single time I’ve played this game, which could be around thousands of times now, I can’t get by without being targeted after clearly they’ve made me uncomfortable, and though my friends I play with who are a bit older than me know better and always defend me, this toxic part of the fan base (College guys who think everyone wants them), atleast I’m presuming, is probably one of the biggest forces driving players away that we never talked about. 

We need a real report system, and we need REAL BANS. Especially when shit like this happens. 

 

I hope I didn’t trigger anyone, and I’m sorry if I did something wrong with this post or it goes against your opinion, but I’m honestly done with this shit, and I feel like bringing it here publicly will help me start conversation about this and help me almost cope in a sense. Thank you!

1. No need for appologies .

2. Don't take anything personal or serious.

3.Troll back.

4. Enjoy.

If these don't work , Great God (Wes from Gun Media) gave you the mute power, don't be shy to use it.

 

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4 hours ago, Jason Todd Voorhees said:

Now thats not right....I hate harassment and bullying....Two things I utterly depise......Im sorry to hear this happens, its best to get yojr male friends so they can dog them like they dog you.

That's quite true, too. For every wanna be bully,  there is always someone bigger and badder to run them off. Bullies only succeed when they think the deck is stacked in their favor. And as far as those who harass,  it's best to ignore them until they go find easier prey. Until there's a way to reach through the system, grab them by the throat, and rip out their vocal cords,  ignoring is the best option

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20 hours ago, CountYorgaVampir said:

Ever hear of Gamergate? There are people online that take harassment of female gamers to an entirely different level. 

Gamer gate was about corruption in games journalism.    Not about harassment of female gamers.  


Some woman deserve to be called out..   Woman like Anita Sarkeeeeezian and Zoe wakakaka Quin deserve everything that gets tossed at them..  

 

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5 hours ago, badassgixxer05 said:

People interactions in this game is the best part. Good or bad I always have a fun time. I'd say 90% of my steam friends came from this game. The few bad apples out there try to ruin it for everyone, but the best thing is just to ignore them and they go away. Trolls only prey looking for reactions. Without them, they get bored and move on..

You're quite right about the interactions.  At first I really enjoyed the game and chatting,  but as time progressed there were more assholes than good guys. Perhaps one day I will put the headset back on and interact again

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47 minutes ago, SonofOdin6039 said:

That's quite true, too. For every wanna be bully,  there is always someone bigger and badder to run them off. Bullies only succeed when they think the deck is stacked in their favor. And as far as those who harass,  it's best to ignore them until they go find easier prey. Until there's a way to reach through the system, grab them by the throat, and rip out their vocal cords,  ignoring is the best option

I mean if I could....I would snap necks if I could go through the internet.

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1 hour ago, SonofOdin6039 said:

That's quite true, too. For every wanna be bully,  there is always someone bigger and badder to run them off. Bullies only succeed when they think the deck is stacked in their favor. And as far as those who harass,  it's best to ignore them until they go find easier prey. Until there's a way to reach through the system, grab them by the throat, and rip out their vocal cords,  ignoring is the best option

Please don't get too violent , you may disturb my sleep :(

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1 hour ago, DeadDuck said:

Please don't get too violent , you may disturb my sleep :(

My apologies. I wish you pleasant dreams

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3 hours ago, HuDawg said:

Gamer gate was about corruption in games journalism.    Not about harassment of female gamers.  

It may have started as a corruption in journalism movement but it became about the behaviour of those who attacked female gamers and push that narrative as a tool to attack them. You can’t at this point in history separate the harassment from the term gamer gate. 
Some woman deserve to be called out..   Woman like Anita Sarkeeeeezian and Zoe wakakaka Quin deserve everything that gets tossed at them..  

No they don’t. Harassment is different from criticism. You’re more than welcome to criticize their behaviour but you don’t get to connect that to all gamers who happen to be women or girls. 

 

Don’t continue this, I will not be a nice as I have been in the past. This thread isn’t about your little dick.

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12 minutes ago, Slasher_Clone said:

Don’t continue this, I will not be a nice as I have been in the past. This thread isn’t about your little dick.

In my defense, even a 747 looks small when its flying into the grand canyon. 

 

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On 5/6/2019 at 5:25 AM, badassgixxer05 said:

Sorry to hear, but Im a 35yold male and I get called all types of shit in this game too. Heck i've been solicited sexual acts(from male and female) to not kill them in game and what not multiple times over. Nothing you can do but laugh it off. Sticks and stones. I know thats like an 80s/90s saying, but they really need to bring that back. People are getting way too soft these days...

15 year olds getting called sl*t every other day are being too soft for bringing the issue to light?

 

Let me sum this up. I’m not talking about being a girl gamer, I’m talking about specifically the f13 community. No other game has ever given me this type of toxic behavior.

this is not a feminism thing to fight over, I was simply stating that females often receive harassment more. Getting called shit bc people hate slashing or bc your Jason doesn’t count as harassment dude, there’s always salty people.

And from what I’ve seen I’ve never seen a guy during these instances be harassed like I am, just sayin..... 

This post was just as useless as the once saying ‘to just mute them’

 

im not here desperate and looking for advice, I’m here to discuss different things we can do with this issue.

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