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Has the possibilty of playing as a counselor in offline mode ever been thrown around? In other words, playing offline with a bot playing as Jason. 

I dont know what anyone else thinks but this would easily increase the value of the game to me. Somtimes i just want to play as a counselor but due to my work schedule i play at odd hours and sometimes just cant find a game. 

 

What do you guys think?

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Would love to play as counselor in offline mode. Really need to practice.

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It’s something that should of been available from the start imo. But I’m sure if it was, Jason would be completely stupid & broken just like the counselors are in offline mode.

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1 hour ago, SgtTastyWheat said:

Has the possibilty of playing as a counselor in offline mode ever been thrown around? In other words, playing offline with a bot playing as Jason. 

I dont know what anyone else thinks but this would easily increase the value of the game to me. Somtimes i just want to play as a counselor but due to my work schedule i play at odd hours and sometimes just cant find a game. 

 

What do you guys think?

Welcome to camp. This topic has come up before, and the answer was no the last time it was mentioned.

58 minutes ago, BlkHawk said:

It’s something that should of been available from the start imo. But I’m sure if it was, Jason would be completely stupid & broken just like the counselors are in offline mode.

A fair number of us here agree that this should have been an option from launch day.

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6 hours ago, SgtTastyWheat said:

 What do you guys think?

I think it’s a great idea. 

I would like to add, I don’t think you even need a Jason bot but it would be very cool. I like roaming the camp as a Counselor though and would enjoy killing the other Counselor bots with one of their own. 

PS. Welcome to camp, could you do an intro when you get a second, D7 would appreciate it (he’s a Mod). 

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Yes of course this would be great. But I'm sure the "we can't add anything to the game because of legal reasons" excuse will keep that from happening.

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Yeah this has been for sure brought up in the past. Would be nice to have an offline sandbox to test your skills as counselor like we can currently as Jason. When I havn't played for awhile i will always warm up as Jason in offline mode before I jump into a QP game. Would be nice to do the same as counselor. From what I can remember they said the AI for Jason would be too time consuming to implement, as it would be difficult to get him to work properly and actually be able to pressure counselors. The current offline counselor bots still have their own set of issues, but I think they are fine for a warm up, but to each is their own.

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I'm pretty sure the developers have nixed this idea due to the Jason AI being way too difficult to develop. Despite some of the buggy behavior I think the counselor bots work surprisingly okay overall, but a Jason bot functioning even semi-effectively in an open-world environment such as this would even give a AAA developer a major run for their money.

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Not that I disagree with a Jason bot being hard to program but I don’t think it’s a reason to not have some form of Counselor mode. Wether sandbox, hunting the other bots as a Counselor or even just seeing what happens when a bot is put in charge of Jason. 

A Jason AI doesn’t need his powers, having him walk after you would be scary in its own way. There’s a lot I’d like to experiment with, it’s to bad we can’t just have fun little side things. I’m pretty sure it’s possible to do a lot with what’s in the game already if they’d let us. 

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12 hours ago, NightmareFuel said:

The most fun experience I ever had with bots were the "Duke Bots" in Duke Nukem 64 lol

Those were the good old days. 😎

10 hours ago, Slasher_Clone said:

I would like to add, I don’t think you even need a Jason bot but it would be very cool. I like roaming the camp as a Counselor though and would enjoy killing the other Counselor bots with one of their own.

This is as close as we could have gotten to Paranoia mode.

8 hours ago, Slasher_Clone said:

Not that I disagree with a Jason bot being hard to program but I don’t think it’s a reason to not have some form of Counselor mode. Wether sandbox, hunting the other bots as a Counselor or even just seeing what happens when a bot is put in charge of Jason. 

A Jason AI doesn’t need his powers, having him walk after you would be scary in its own way. There’s a lot I’d like to experiment with, it’s to bad we can’t just have fun little side things. I’m pretty sure it’s possible to do a lot with what’s in the game already if they’d let us. 

A method of offline counselor play would have been good to let players hone certain skills and techniques, before trying them online. Private matches with friends is the most likely alternative.

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10 minutes ago, Fair Play said:

This is as close as we could have gotten to Paranoia mode.

And that would have been fine.

10 minutes ago, Fair Play said:

A method of offline counselor play would have been good to let players hone certain skills and techniques, before trying them online. Private matches with friends is the most likely alternative.

I’m almost tempted to get a second PS4 so I can fake it but then there’s no one to kill, 😢. Just a random standing around. 

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I'm not a programmer nor do I design software, but I have been writing down ideas for how a Jason A.I. could possibly function. 

For example, pretend you're on a map with 6 cabins, the phone box (not included in the 6), and a car. You could give the cabins a numerical value, but the phone and cabin could have three values each. So something like:

1: Cabin 1

2: Cabin 2

3/4/5: Phone house

6: Cabin 3

7: Cabin 4

8/9/10: Vehicle

11: Cabin 5

12: Cabin 6

Jason would choose a random 1-12 value and that would be the location of his first Morph, meaning he is likely, but not definitely, going to a priority cabin right at the start of the match.

 

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2 hours ago, HaHaTrumpWon said:

I'm not a programmer nor do I design software, but I have been writing down ideas for how a Jason A.I. could possibly function.

I've played a lot of games, and I've seen opponents that Jason could have been coded in similarity to, and he could have been somewhat believable.

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Awhile back, someone posted a proof of concept bot Jason that just chased you around to try to slash you. Probably back in 2017 if I remember. I can't find the videos anymore. Not sure if they were deleted or Gun put the hammer down on them or im not searching hard enough. They were on youtube though.

Its definitely possible, but you know not enough money or time despite the killing they made with the game.

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If Alien : Isolation can do it, so can Friday the 13th. Obviously it's new content but for a sequel ... SEGA are you listening?

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I just want to know what a Counselor bot would do if it was controlling a Jason model and given the most aggressive archetype they have. 

1 hour ago, F134Ever86 said:

If Alien : Isolation can do it, so can Friday the 13th. Obviously it's new content but for a sequel ... SEGA are you listening?

I never considered Sega, you might actually have something with that idea, they never shied away from horror.

6 hours ago, tyrant666 said:

Awhile back, someone posted a proof of concept bot Jason that just chased you around to try to slash you. Probably back in 2017 if I remember. I can't find the videos anymore. Not sure if they were deleted or Gun put the hammer down on them or im not searching hard enough. They were on youtube though.

Its definitely possible, but you know not enough money or time despite the killing they made with the game.

If you do find it please PM me a link, I’d love to see it. 

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40 minutes ago, Slasher_Clone said:

I just want to know what a Counselor bot would do if it was controlling a Jason model and given the most aggressive archetype they have. 

I never considered Sega, you might actually have something with that idea, they never shied away from horror.

If you do find it please PM me a link, I’d love to see it. 

Just found the thread that had the video.

http://forum.f13game.com/topic/13441-video-showing-jason-ai-is-possible/

Looks like they forced him to remove it.

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1 minute ago, BigJay said:

If I'm not mistaken, wasn't that a Paul Phoenix video? 

I believe so, back when he was datamining the game. Never really cared for him, he more or less gave up on the game before it even released. I think he just posted that kind of content to irritate those who wanted things kept secret more than because he was interested in doing it.

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17 minutes ago, tyrant666 said:

Just found the thread that had the video.

http://forum.f13game.com/topic/13441-video-showing-jason-ai-is-possible/

 Looks like they forced him to remove it.

Thanks anyway, it might have been interesting but before my time, so I missed it.

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Yes to this.  A million times YES!

Also, I requested this a while ago, but I'll repeat again here, that it would have been cool to have had more options for the bots.  Perfect Dark for the N64 had bots with different "personalities" that made the experience very cool and fun.  For example, you could give them "personalities" like:

Protector -- this counselor is all about keeping his/her friends safe.  He/she will rush towards you if there are other counselors in the immediate vicinity.

Coward -- this counselor does NOT want to be found.  If he/she knows you are in the vicinity, he/she is hiding.

Repair Specialist -- this counselor WILL attempt to repair the escape options, whether or not they are proficient in repair.  A real Bossy Betty.

And so on...besides a more specific way to make the game more difficult/easy, you could make for some silly fun, too.  Like make Buggzy a coward, Tiffany a repair specialist, etc.

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