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(This could possibly be moved to the Suggestions section)

I heard @wes' recent statement was that they are not planning to mark the Tommy house' power box.  My question is why not? Is it the fact that they don't want to create something new (new map icons or the like), or is it something more than that?  

An idea I had was this ( @mattshotcha) :  why not just color-code the one single box as a P.O.I. (point of intrest) like the landmark buildings on the maps (i.e. the Jarvis and Party House on the Jarvis House map)?  Having these specific buildings marked yellow doesn't serve much of a purpose at all, being that they all have their own unique icons (oars for the boathouse, men/women symbol for the bathrooms, etc...).  Simply mark the power box yellow and no extra work need be involved in regards to the Tommy house.  Jason easily sees the vehicles, unique buildings, and the phone house.  These are his stomping grounds, I would think he should know where this power box with a radio tower is as well.

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Because there is a huge tower with a blinking red light.

                                - Wes Keltner

@Jdt827 it doesn't make it any less true.

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51 minutes ago, F134Ever86 said:

Because there is a huge tower with a blinking red light.

                                - Wes Keltner

This unnecessary response is just foolish and you know it. It would be sad if I actually needed to explain why.

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Probably because it shouldn't be easy for Jason to spot the Tommy house right away. That's the only chance for someone to respawn in the game.

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umm no. stating it’s not needed on the basis of the tower, is silly. That does not tell you where to spawn which is the purpose of the topic. So if you’re gonna respond in a needlessly sarcastic manner, have the sense to make it on point. You have find it which means you luck out by spawning in it’s proximity to see it or keep spawning until you find it- which is issue of the post... 😒

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1 hour ago, RustInPeace said:

My question is why not?

   Too much of a buff for Jason.
   Tommy is not the problem... How easy it is to remove Jason's mask IS the problem.
   Too many Jason players just camp the power box when they do find it early anyway, which leads to mass escapes... and very low kill counts for the big guy. And if Jason does not camp the power box, Tommy WILL be called if the players so chose to call him.

1 hour ago, RustInPeace said:

Having these specific buildings marked yellow doesn't serve much of a purpose at all

   It indicates to a new player... or any player that does not know the maps very well, which houses are the "main" houses. It is not meant to be of any help to anyone who already knows the maps very well... but it did come in handy the first couple of times playing on any one of the maps.

29 minutes ago, Jdt827 said:

It would be sad if I actually needed to explain why.

   It is sad that they have to repeat the same responses over and over to people who just can't accept the answer.

2 minutes ago, Jdt827 said:

So if you’re gonna respond in a needlessly sarcastic manner, have the sense to make it on point.

   The sarcasm that @F134Ever86 used here was far from "needless"... and its point explains itself... How many times does something have to be repeated by the devs or by Matt for that matter? Also... if you are going to respond to someone... it would be kind of you to let them know you have responded to them with a tag.

   And the tower is plainly visible from pretty far away... and is often shown in the opening cutscene of a match. How much plainer does it need to be? Should there be a strobe light on top of it? When people do not notice the plainly visible radio tower... it is because they did not look up, or where not paying attention to their surroundings... and not paying attention to your surroundings in this game never ends well for that player.
   Also, people should look up now and again... the full moon is beautiful at any time of year.  

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8 minutes ago, Ahab said:

   Too much of a buff for Jason.
   Tommy is not the problem... How easy it is to remove Jason's mask IS the problem.
   Too many Jason players just camp the power box when they do find it early anyway, which leads to mass escapes... and very low kill counts for the big guy. And if Jason does not camp the power box, Tommy WILL be called if the players so chose to call him.

   It indicates to a new player... or any player that does not know the maps very well, which houses are the "main" houses. It is not meant to be of any help to anyone who already knows the maps very well... but it did come in handy the first couple of times playing on any one of the maps.

   It is sad that they have to repeat the same responses over and over to people who just can't accept the answer.

   The sarcasm that @F134Ever86 used here was far from "needless"... and its point explains itself... How many times does something have to be repeated by the devs or by Matt for that matter? Also... if you are going to respond to someone... it would be kind of you to let them know you have responded to them with a tag.

   And the tower is plainly visible from pretty far away... and is often shown in the opening cutscene of a match. How much plainer does it need to be? Should there be a strobe light on top of it? When people do not notice the plainly visible radio tower... it is because they did not look up, or where not paying attention to their surroundings... and not paying attention to your surroundings in this game never ends well for that player.
   Also, people should look up now and again... the full moon is beautiful at any time of year.  

I hope you’ve changed your tampon since responding. You absolutely have to be at the very least in the right camp to spot it. All there is to it. The comment is needless simply because it implies you know where it is as easily as having it marked. So sad you don’t get that.  If you don’t feel like contributing in a respectful manner to someone else’s post, move on to another one. I’ve personally never seen this topic at all so I have no idea where you’re getting the idea people should somehow know any particular answer. Oh... because you think the rest is also don’t have a life and follow every tweet, response, and press release as they come out. Calm your ass down.

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1 hour ago, Jdt827 said:

This unnecessary response is just foolish and you know it. It would be sad if I actually needed to explain why.

Wes said it. So you can cry all you want, it's not happening.

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10 minutes ago, F134Ever86 said:

Wes said it. So you can cry all you want, it's not happening.

I don’t give shit who said it. And I’m not crying about anything. I’m literally laughing at the audacity and whiny shit members like you post. It’s like you get on here with every intention of making sure you post a bunch of nothing on everyone’s topics. 🤣🤣🤣 like you’re so needy to speak but have nothing to say. 

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Wes has said a lot of things that haven't been true before.

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1 hour ago, Jdt827 said:

I hope you’ve changed your tampon since responding.

   Ha!... That sounds like a cheap shot coming from someone that actually does need to change his tampon... but cannot figure out how to do it.

1 hour ago, Jdt827 said:

You absolutely have to be at the very least in the right camp to spot it. All there is to it.

   The seven counselors in a match spawn ALL OVER the map in EVERY match. Someone is literally guaranteed to spawn close to it, but most players are too narrow minded to think of anything but speed looting at this point and I have seen many players not bother with the C.B. radio at all in favor of getting to the next house before someone else does. That is on these players... not on the devs to make up for the short coming of these players... because that is all this is.

1 hour ago, Jdt827 said:

The comment is needless simply because it implies you know where it is as easily as having it marked. So sad you don’t get that. 

   The comment was not needless and has already been explained to you (and a great MANY other people) as to why this is. So sad you don't get that.
   Also... you claiming that someone else's sarcasm is.... "unnecessary and foolish"... and it "being sad if you needed to explain why"... and then turning around with an insulting "tampon" comment.... is exactly why it is EXTREMELY easy to dismiss pretty much everything you say... You should try some harmless sarcasm... but I fear your vocabulary may be too limited for that.

1 hour ago, Jdt827 said:

If you don’t feel like contributing in a respectful manner to someone else’s post, move on to another one.

   You do not give the orders here... I and MANY other people here will continue to hand out the sarcasm to people that ask for it in such ways. It is so sad you don't get that.

1 hour ago, Jdt827 said:

I’ve personally never seen this topic at all so I have no idea where you’re getting the idea people should somehow know any particular answer.

   It has been discussed at GREAT length by MANY people in MANY different threads... and they have been answered many times already with "this will never happen". It is actually VERY difficult to miss any of these discussions when you can actually read more than three sentences at a time.

1 hour ago, Jdt827 said:

Oh... because you think the rest is also don’t have a life and follow every tweet, response, and press release as they come out. Calm your ass down.

   No, it is you that have told others they do not have a life and spend too much time here before... and I will point out to you AGAIN... you do not get to tell others how they spend their time... and if you want to insult others for this, it shows how small of a brain you have. And if you think that you need to follow every single thing that is said to stay  informed... then there is literally no help for you.
   Oh, and I am perfectly calm... to borrow a line from someone I can relate to... "You would not like me when I am angry."

54 minutes ago, Jdt827 said:

I don’t give shit who said it. And I’m not crying about anything.

   This is your problem right here... because you do not care who said it... well, Wes said it... and you do not get to tell him how to do his job. It is so sad that you do not understand this.
    Also... you should really read your own posts here... your claim that you are not crying is laughable... Your posts here are obviously "crying"... obvious to everyone but you apparently.... It is so sad that you do not understand this.

57 minutes ago, Jdt827 said:

I’m literally laughing at the audacity and whiny shit members like you post.

    This is a direct insult... denoted by your usage of "like you"... taking it out of the realm of sarcasm and into the realm of DIRECT INSULT... which falls under "Harassment"... little boy. You owe @F134Ever86 an apology here... but you seem to immature to be able to see that.

58 minutes ago, Jdt827 said:

It’s like you get on here with every intention of making sure you post a bunch of nothing on everyone’s topics. 🤣🤣🤣 like you’re so needy to speak but have nothing to say. 

   @F134Ever86 Has had plenty to say... and knows how to think. Which is blatantly obvious after reading enough of his posts... You could take lessons from him... After all, you need to take lessons from someone apparently.

54 minutes ago, malloymk said:

Wes has said a lot of things that haven't been true before.

   You need to put some "proof" along with an accusation like that... I should not have to explain why.
   Also... if you think you can name ANYONE who has NEVER spoken an "untruth" at some point in their lifetime... Well, we call that "delusional." Even the most honest people in the world or who have ever lived for that matter... have told a lie at some point. But throwing accusations around without proof... there are actually laws against that.

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4 hours ago, Ahab said:

   Ha!... That sounds like a cheap shot coming from someone that actually does need to change his tampon... but cannot figure out how to do it.

   The seven counselors in a match spawn ALL OVER the map in EVERY match. Someone is literally guaranteed to spawn close to it, but most players are too narrow minded to think of anything but speed looting at this point and I have seen many players not bother with the C.B. radio at all in favor of getting to the next house before someone else does. That is on these players... not on the devs to make up for the short coming of these players... because that is all this is.

   The comment was not needless and has already been explained to you (and a great MANY other people) as to why this is. So sad you don't get that.
   Also... you claiming that someone else's sarcasm is.... "unnecessary and foolish"... and it "being sad if you needed to explain why"... and then turning around with an insulting "tampon" comment.... is exactly why it is EXTREMELY easy to dismiss pretty much everything you say... You should try some harmless sarcasm... but I fear your vocabulary may be too limited for that.

   You do not give the orders here... I and MANY other people here will continue to hand out the sarcasm to people that ask for it in such ways. It is so sad you don't get that.

   It has been discussed at GREAT length by MANY people in MANY different threads... and they have been answered many times already with "this will never happen". It is actually VERY difficult to miss any of these discussions when you can actually read more than three sentences at a time.

   No, it is you that have told others they do not have a life and spend too much time here before... and I will point out to you AGAIN... you do not get to tell others how they spend their time... and if you want to insult others for this, it shows how small of a brain you have. And if you think that you need to follow every single thing that is said to stay  informed... then there is literally no help for you.
   Oh, and I am perfectly calm... to borrow a line from someone I can relate to... "You would not like me when I am angry."

   This is your problem right here... because you do not care who said it... well, Wes said it... and you do not get to tell him how to do his job. It is so sad that you do not understand this.
    Also... you should really read your own posts here... your claim that you are not crying is laughable... Your posts here are obviously "crying"... obvious to everyone but you apparently.... It is so sad that you do not understand this.

    This is a direct insult... denoted by your usage of "like you"... taking it out of the realm of sarcasm and into the realm of DIRECT INSULT... which falls under "Harassment"... little boy. You owe @F134Ever86 an apology here... but you seem to immature to be able to see that.

   @F134Ever86 Has had plenty to say... and knows how to think. Which is blatantly obvious after reading enough of his posts... You could take lessons from him... After all, you need to take lessons from someone apparently.

   You need to put some "proof" along with an accusation like that... I should not have to explain why.
   Also... if you think you can name ANYONE who has NEVER spoken an "untruth" at some point in their lifetime... Well, we call that "delusional." Even the most honest people in the world or who have ever lived for that matter... have told a lie at some point. But throwing accusations around without proof... there are actually laws against that.

Thank you #1 for validating my point you have no life. No point in arguing with you. You’re too narrow minded to know what you’re talking about. 

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It should be marked, point blank period. Summoning the strongest character should not be able to be done in the first 15 seconds of the game. It took us over a year to fix the fuse from spawning in th fuse house and the cops getting called in the first minute of the game. Tommy should not automatically be a part of every match, it’s annoying, exhausting, and not balanced. They just never patched how easy it is calling Tommy like they did the fuse box by adding the fuse. If someone spawns in or near the radio it gets called instantly and that’s so beyond outrageous. It’s just like how fast the police used to get called and it detracts from the game.

TJ should not be a guarantee in every match like he is. In the current meta, if Tommy doesn’t show up, it’s nearly jaw dropping. “Wow, are you sure nobody called?” Like many backers, I believe that the power should always have started as being cut and the counselors have to repair everything. This would allow Jason to get started quicker (as he would have done since Wes claims this is Act 2 or 45 minutes into the ‘film’ experience) and not need to even worry about cutting the power.  Again, there’s always been a discrepancy about how much the counselors know and how scared they are.

Tommy needs to be adjusted to be an actual hero character, not a second chance to someone who couldn’t survive the first 45 seconds. Thankfully it’s finally been patched to not let suicide trolls come back. Since the devs want to go in and out of how the game is “supposed” to work, virtually nobody that comes back as Tommy plays how he was designed to come back in the first place. I never, ever call Tommy and hate seeing him in the game. 9/10 matches he contributes nothing and dies again for nothing, the other time he helps nobody and survives to just drag the match out.

The radio should be an icon, cut and dry. All the generators, the phone, cars, boat, and every cabin are marked on the map. The argument that “it’s a giant tower you should be able to see” doesn’t fly. Why mark the cats then, are they not clearly visible from a distance? If anything, the generators shouldn’t be marked but whatever. They just don’t want to admit not marking the radio was an oversight. So  what they’re saying is that the local area maps have cars marked on them? And we know where other counselors are through GPS? Oh ok. It’s all inconsistent but they don’t want to admit yet another inconsistency in the game. 

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@BeautyNumber2 I agree that the CB radio should either start broken, require a fuse or be able to be destroyed entirely (leaning towards this option) but marking it on the map would be like marking Jason's shack. 

I always thought that the GPS for other counselors took away from having to communicate and blunted the scare factor.

Jason knows the campground like the back of his hand, so knowing where the generators  and cabins are makes sense to me.

Seeing how fast the vehicles can get repaired makes it a necessity to mark those as well, but I think it would be fair to have them unmarked until a failed repair, when Jason finds them or once they get started.

If I had my way, dead players would respawn as police if the phone was fixed (to escort counselors to safety) and Tommy wouldn't be able to come until 1 or two counselors were left.

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Hey all, let's try and tone down the aggro in here a bit.

I'd reply, but @Ahab covered the same points I would. I think a lot of players are putting a lot of weight into Jason knowing where the CB house is immediately. I also don't see this alleviating the issues that are mentioned here.

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19 hours ago, Ahab said:

   Ha!... That sounds like a cheap shot coming from someone that actually does need to change his tampon... but cannot figure out how to do it.

   The seven counselors in a match spawn ALL OVER the map in EVERY match. Someone is literally guaranteed to spawn close to it, but most players are too narrow minded to think of anything but speed looting at this point and I have seen many players not bother with the C.B. radio at all in favor of getting to the next house before someone else does. That is on these players... not on the devs to make up for the short coming of these players... because that is all this is.

   The comment was not needless and has already been explained to you (and a great MANY other people) as to why this is. So sad you don't get that.
   Also... you claiming that someone else's sarcasm is.... "unnecessary and foolish"... and it "being sad if you needed to explain why"... and then turning around with an insulting "tampon" comment.... is exactly why it is EXTREMELY easy to dismiss pretty much everything you say... You should try some harmless sarcasm... but I fear your vocabulary may be too limited for that.

   You do not give the orders here... I and MANY other people here will continue to hand out the sarcasm to people that ask for it in such ways. It is so sad you don't get that.

   It has been discussed at GREAT length by MANY people in MANY different threads... and they have been answered many times already with "this will never happen". It is actually VERY difficult to miss any of these discussions when you can actually read more than three sentences at a time.

   No, it is you that have told others they do not have a life and spend too much time here before... and I will point out to you AGAIN... you do not get to tell others how they spend their time... and if you want to insult others for this, it shows how small of a brain you have. And if you think that you need to follow every single thing that is said to stay  informed... then there is literally no help for you.
   Oh, and I am perfectly calm... to borrow a line from someone I can relate to... "You would not like me when I am angry."

   This is your problem right here... because you do not care who said it... well, Wes said it... and you do not get to tell him how to do his job. It is so sad that you do not understand this.
    Also... you should really read your own posts here... your claim that you are not crying is laughable... Your posts here are obviously "crying"... obvious to everyone but you apparently.... It is so sad that you do not understand this.

    This is a direct insult... denoted by your usage of "like you"... taking it out of the realm of sarcasm and into the realm of DIRECT INSULT... which falls under "Harassment"... little boy. You owe @F134Ever86 an apology here... but you seem to immature to be able to see that.

   @F134Ever86 Has had plenty to say... and knows how to think. Which is blatantly obvious after reading enough of his posts... You could take lessons from him... After all, you need to take lessons from someone apparently.

   You need to put some "proof" along with an accusation like that... I should not have to explain why.
   Also... if you think you can name ANYONE who has NEVER spoken an "untruth" at some point in their lifetime... Well, we call that "delusional." Even the most honest people in the world or who have ever lived for that matter... have told a lie at some point. But throwing accusations around without proof... there are actually laws against that.

Lol. Okay, I'm sure Wes will be suing me any day now. Here is an example of an untruth from Wes:

No new content.

There has been new content since he made this claim. From a boat start-up noise to upcoming plans to release the game on switch. Well that goes against what he has said.

As far as your weird philosophical, "hasn't anyone said a mistruth" argument. The answer is yes. Obviously. No shit. It doesn't change the fact that Wes has made claims about this game that haven't been true whether by accident or on purpose. Which that was my original retort to the poster that said, "but Wes said!". My point wasn't that Wes is a liar and scam artist. Whether he has lied about things or has just been incorrect it doesn't change the fact that sometimes Wes has said things that hasn't been true.

Hopefully that answers your misplaced concerns.

 

 

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1 minute ago, malloymk said:

Lol. Okay, I'm sure Wes will be suing me any day now. Here is an example of an untruth from Wes:

No new content.

There has been new content since he made this claim. From a boat start-up noise to upcoming plans to release the game on switch. Well that goes against what he has said.

As far as your weird philosophical, "hasn't anyone said a mistruth" argument. The answer is yes. Obviously. No shit. It doesn't change the fact that Wes has made claims about this game that haven't been true whether by accident or on purpose. Which that was my original retort to the poster that said, "but Wes said!".

Hopefully that answers your misplaced concerns.

 

 

The boat start up noise.... The man, the myth, the legend. Lets please not bring up that debate again... 😂

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1 minute ago, badassgixxer05 said:

The boat start up noise.... The man, the myth, the legend. Lets please not bring up that debate again... 😂

Lol basically this:

Me: there was never a boat noise

Other posters: I seem to remember that maybe there was.

Me: here is video from launch with proof of no boat noise

Other posters: yeah I guess. But I'm pretty sure there was.

Me: ok prove it.

Other posters: hmm... I'm pretty sure there was a boat noise.

Me: ...

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2 hours ago, malloymk said:

Lol. Okay, I'm sure Wes will be suing me any day now.

   Be careful what you wish for.

2 hours ago, malloymk said:

Well that goes against what he has said.

   Someone having a change of mind, or of "heart"... does not constitute a lie... Perhaps you should google what the word "lie" actually means.
   Whether the boat startup warning was a warning that was previously in the game or not is irrelevant... the noise was already in the game... as were Jason's other warnings. This EASILY falls under "balance adjustments".
   You should also google "what new content" actually means while you are at it... Increase your wordiness!!

    Because this was forgotten, or overlooked that it was not in the first public release is completely irrelevant. How do you know it was not in the game and taken out before the game was released to the public?... If it was in the game before it was released to the public... then it is pretty far from a lie... If Wes had made a mistake in thinking that it was previously in the game and it turns out it was not actually in the game previously... then he made a mistake, which also does not constitute a lie. Fortunately, as I pointed out above, it does not fall under new content either way... And I still escape on the boat all the time... even with the warning.
    That was not even a good attempt at "proof"... But you are welcome to try again.

2 hours ago, malloymk said:

As far as your weird philosophical, "hasn't anyone said a mistruth" argument. The answer is yes. Obviously. No shit.

   "Yes... obviously... no shit".
   This is your answer?.... Then why exactly did you NEED this to be pointed out to you?... because your statements SCREAMED the FACT that you did not already know this until it was pointed out to you... Your response implied this as well.
   And if you think anything philosophical is "weird"... then there is no help for you.
   But, I will say this... at least you tried to answer... which is better than the other guy just throwing laughably uninventive insults around.

   I think your next post is also rather laughable... considering the points I have made already in this post alone... but thanks for trying. Others have made WAY better arguments than this one... and still been shot down rather easily... And I am not even trying to defend anyone here... Wait until you see me actually try to defend someone... You would rather be behind me than in front of me.
 

17 hours ago, Jdt827 said:

Thank you #1 for validating my point you have no life.

   I have a lovely life, that includes a great many things in it... But I will not spend the time to write a book of all of the things that I do include in my life here... you would not read it beyond the first sentence anyway... and if you did, you would find quite a few things that you would not believe anyway... Yet they would all be true... I have no reason to lie about it.
   But thank you for proving with your own words you are an uneducated TROLL... The uneducated kind is the worst... and trolls are my "white whale"... as most people around here already know.

17 hours ago, Jdt827 said:

No point in arguing with you.

   Being you do not seem to have an education... then no... You will NEVER have fun in ANY argument with me at all. I actually prefer an intelligent conversation… and you do not seem to be able to provide one. Fortunately, there are quite a few VERY intelligent people on these forums... you are just not one of them.

17 hours ago, Jdt827 said:

You’re too narrow minded to know what you’re talking about. 

   Actually, if you could speak like an intelligent and civilized human being... You would find my interests are WAY broader than most people you will ever meet. Calling me narrow minded is a laughable joke... If I am narrow minded, then that would constitute you not having a mind at all... Kind of like a stupid person is only emphasizing their own stupidity by calling me "stupid."

   I am literally a fountain of knowledge and still actively trying to learn about many things that interest me... I can also corelate and use the knowledge I have... and when I do not know something, I ask someone who does... or I research it myself (which is laughably easy to do with this internet thingy)… I can also admit when I am wrong, and am not afraid to admit it if I do not know something... and neither am I afraid to learn new things. If ANY of these points actually did mean "stupid" then yes... I would be guilty... But what does that say about everyone else who choses not to learn new things... or admit when they are wrong... or ask a question when they do not understand something... or string two (or more) thoughts together?... The answer to this was explained in the previous paragraph... Just in case you missed it. If you cannot find it... I will point out exactly which sentence it was, just for you.

    Fortunately for me... I do not fall under the category of "stupid"... There is a cure for stupidity... I learned it long, long ago... It is called "learning", but must also include the ability to "think" which comes with the ability to "corelate knowledge" that I mentioned above... But it is also a choice that can only be made by the individual in question... which makes "stupidity" a choice... Which should not need to be pointed out... Yet, apparently... you did need this pointed out... so there you go... You're welcome.
 

3 hours ago, badassgixxer05 said:

The boat start up noise.... The man, the myth, the legend. Lets please not bring up that debate again... 😂

   The debate is indeed... over... and finalized once again. Some people just cannot accept it. Tune in tomorrow... I am sure there will be more.

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1 hour ago, Ahab said:

   Be careful what you wish for.

   Someone having a change of mind, or of "heart"... does not constitute a lie... Perhaps you should google what the word "lie" actually means.
   Whether the boat startup warning was a warning that was previously in the game or not is irrelevant... the noise was already in the game... as were Jason's other warnings. This EASILY falls under "balance adjustments".
   You should also google "what new content" actually means while you are at it... Increase your wordiness!!

    Because this was forgotten, or overlooked that it was not in the first public release is completely irrelevant. How do you know it was not in the game and taken out before the game was released to the public?... If it was in the game before it was released to the public... then it is pretty far from a lie... If Wes had made a mistake in thinking that it was previously in the game and it turns out it was not actually in the game previously... then he made a mistake, which also does not constitute a lie. Fortunately, as I pointed out above, it does not fall under new content either way... And I still escape on the boat all the time... even with the warning.
    That was not even a good attempt at "proof"... But you are welcome to try again.

   "Yes... obviously... no shit".
   This is your answer?.... Then why exactly did you NEED this to be pointed out to you?... because your statements SCREAMED the FACT that you did not already know this until it was pointed out to you... Your response implied this as well.
   And if you think anything philosophical is "weird"... then there is no help for you.
   But, I will say this... at least you tried to answer... which is better than the other guy just throwing laughably uninventive insults around.

   I think your next post is also rather laughable... considering the points I have made already in this post alone... but thanks for trying. Others have made WAY better arguments than this one... and still been shot down rather easily... And I am not even trying to defend anyone here... Wait until you see me actually try to defend someone... You would rather be behind me than in front of me.
 

   I have a lovely life, that includes a great many things in it... But I will not spend the time to write a book of all of the things that I do include in my life here... you would not read it beyond the first sentence anyway... and if you did, you would find quite a few things that you would not believe anyway... Yet they would all be true... I have no reason to lie about it.
   But thank you for proving with your own words you are an uneducated TROLL... The uneducated kind is the worst... and trolls are my "white whale"... as most people around here already know.

   Being you do not seem to have an education... then no... You will NEVER have fun in ANY argument with me at all. I actually prefer an intelligent conversation… and you do not seem to be able to provide one. Fortunately, there are quite a few VERY intelligent people on these forums... you are just not one of them.

   Actually, if you could speak like an intelligent and civilized human being... You would find my interests are WAY broader than most people you will ever meet. Calling me narrow minded is a laughable joke... If I am narrow minded, then that would constitute you not having a mind at all... Kind of like a stupid person is only emphasizing their own stupidity by calling me "stupid."

   I am literally a fountain of knowledge and still actively trying to learn about many things that interest me... I can also corelate and use the knowledge I have... and when I do not know something, I ask someone who does... or I research it myself (which is laughably easy to do with this internet thingy)… I can also admit when I am wrong, and am not afraid to admit it if I do not know something... and neither am I afraid to learn new things. If ANY of these points actually did mean "stupid" then yes... I would be guilty... But what does that say about everyone else who choses not to learn new things... or admit when they are wrong... or ask a question when they do not understand something... or string two (or more) thoughts together?... The answer to this was explained in the previous paragraph... Just in case you missed it. If you cannot find it... I will point out exactly which sentence it was, just for you.

    Fortunately for me... I do not fall under the category of "stupid"... There is a cure for stupidity... I learned it long, long ago... It is called "learning", but must also include the ability to "think" which comes with the ability to "corelate knowledge" that I mentioned above... But it is also a choice that can only be made by the individual in question... which makes "stupidity" a choice... Which should not need to be pointed out... Yet, apparently... you did need this pointed out... so there you go... You're welcome.
 

   The debate is indeed... over... and finalized once again. Some people just cannot accept it. Tune in tomorrow... I am sure there will be more.

Umm. Where did I say Wes lied?

I just said just because Wes says something doesn't mean it's a fact even when it comes to this game.

I think you're trying to be an internet lawyer for some reason. Just implying that Wes is going to sue me because I said literally "Wes has said a lot of things that haven't been true" is one of the silliest things I've heard. 

I can't stress this enough, but read better to post better. You're posts directed at me are really accusatory and you seem to be putting words in my mouth. I'll spell it out for you though. 

Someone posted that Wes said they're not going to add a notification for Jason for the Tommy cabin. I posted "not everything Wes has said is true" (fact). You responded with some long diatribe that I may get sued (lol) and that everyone has told untruths (agreed, obviously, again no shit). 

Things I never said:

"Wes is a liar".

I don't know Wes. He may have out and out lied about things. Maybe not. I have no inside knowledge of outright lies. I do know that somethings he has said regarding the game have not be factual. My guess is that he has bigger fish to fry than know every intimate detail about the game in particular, nuances of game play. 

Does the fact that Wes has been wromg about this game piss me off? If it has in the past, it doesn't anymore because I barely play it. Do I stand by my post that just because Wes says something that it doesn't necessarily make it true? Oh yeah. For sure.

Again, I'm not sure why you're trying to put words in my mouth. 

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Also, for the love of all that is good, the fucking boat noise was not in the game at launch. 

Ben confirmed in an earlier post that it wasn't meant to be in the game as it was supposed to be a stealth escape with certain doom if you're caught (high risk/high reward). Maybe Wes and Ben weren't on the same page with that? Go ask them, but there is video at launch showing no boat noise. 

If you have proof otherwise (not speculation or false memory) just show me. I will eat some crow. I bet you can't find any though.

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3 hours ago, malloymk said:

Also, for the love of all that is good, the fucking boat noise was not in the game at launch. 

Ben confirmed in an earlier post that it wasn't meant to be in the game as it was supposed to be a stealth escape with certain doom if you're caught (high risk/high reward). Maybe Wes and Ben weren't on the same page with that? Go ask them, but there is video at launch showing no boat noise. 

If you have proof otherwise (not speculation or false memory) just show me. I will eat some crow. I bet you can't find any though.

It's also possible that it was supposed to be in the game at launch but was broken until recently, lol

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29 minutes ago, woundcowboy said:

It's also possible that it was supposed to be in the game at launch but was broken until recently, lol

That's possible. That said, Ben (one of the devs) was asked about it and he advised it was meant to have no noise as it was a high risk/high reward mode of escape. So either Ben was wrong or lying or Wes was wrong or lying. Again, it doesn't so much matter to me really one way or the other, besides factually there was no boat noise at launch up until whenever they claimed they "fixed it" (just over a year and a half after launch mind you).

My theory is that it was never intended at launch and that it was accidentally added before that patch and they just said screw it, leave it in. I think they claimed it was a fix to stop people from saying it was new content (since it was) and it was obviously easier to just leave it in rather than possibly mess something else up. Just a theory and to be honest they may be in the right to have made this decision as there could have been worse consequences trying to fix it. 

Or again, Ben and Wes could just not been on the same page. It could be that simple. 

I do know there was no boat noise at launch.

I do know Ben said it was intended to be that way (about 5 months after launch).

I do know it took over a year and a half to "fix" the boat noise and up until just before that patch there was no one single statement that it was intended to be in the game at any point.

These last three statements are facts and not opinions. But I mean yeah, "But Wes said...".

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Another silly argument about the boat noise. Jason hearing It isn’t new content, the noise was always there, just now he hears it everywhere. 

It’s just repurposed which they can do for balance. As for what they said differing, well they’re not the same person and each have an opinion, they merely shared them like they were facts, which people do all the time. 

By all means continue though. I’m just throwing my opinion in there, you don’t have to agree and it isn’t directed at anyone.

 

Edit - The power box for the Tommy house (CB cabin) should start sabotaged, that’s my two cents on the OP. 

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10 minutes ago, Slasher_Clone said:

The power box for the Tommy house (CB cabin) should start sabotaged, that’s my two cents on the OP. 

Agreed, some type of repair should be necessary for the CB radio ... whether it’s a fuse or attaching the speaker to it that is located somewhere else whatever....... it just shouldn’t be as easy to call him in as it is now...

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