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Thom Mathews(Tommy) intro dialogues are missing

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To @ShiftySamurai @mattshotcha(Which by the way, I want to say congratulations on your position and welcome the forums! Wishing you the best for your work and dedication here.)

A little surprised no one caught on to this yet, unless someone did and there is a thread covering this issue, then forgive me, disregard this thread and I'll direct this topic to the appropriate place it needs be. Since we were able to get Pamela's voice back, I figure this issue was worth mentioning and needed attention. I know Thom Mathews played a huge role behind the scenes when it came to getting his character into the game and I've got to say, it does feel a bit gloomy not hearing his voice that much often aside from "Come on maggot head!", "Come on chicken shit!" etc.

I don't know if this applies the same for Xbox or PC players, but as a PS4 user experiencing this, I can't remember the exact patch/update that occurred for this to happen, but I'm pretty sure they've been absent since 2017. I don't remember every single dialogue Tommy said, but these are the best I can recall going by memory and game play videos from last year. 

Current record of missing dialogues after Tommy's cut scene intro so far:

"Oh god! What am I going to do?"

"Jason is alive, I dug up his body. He's even more powerful now."

"Jason's alive. He killed my friend. Now he's coming for me."

Tommy while in Jason's kill animation:

"He's killing me!" is replaced by Chad's voice.

If anybody else can remember any other lines or notice other dialogue issues regarding Tommy besides the intro, feel free to refresh my memory in this thread and I'll gladly add it to the list.

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I’d love to see his full dialogue come back, if it’s possible. Thanks for bringing this up, I don’t think it’s been mentioned.

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Hey! Thanks for tagging me in here. I've spoken to the team and we're getting these reported now. This, at least in my short time on the job, the first I'm hearing of it. So if anyone knows of others, please do let us know.

Thanks for the heads up!

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2 hours ago, mattshotcha said:

Hey! Thanks for tagging me in here. I've spoken to the team and we're getting these reported now. This, at least in my short time on the job, the first I'm hearing of it. So if anyone knows of others, please do let us know.

Thanks for the heads up!

I am not sure about voice overs missing but there is strange lighting issues on all maps where lights above cabins / camp fires and fireplaces don’t light up till you walk up to them..... not sure if the team is aware of that issue as well.

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5 minutes ago, OCT 31 1978 said:

I am not sure about voice overs missing but there is a strange lighting issues on all maps where lights above cabins / camp fires and fireplaces don’t light up till you walk up to them..... not sure if the team is set of that issue as well.

This one sounds familiar, but I'll check into it.

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4 hours ago, mattshotcha said:

This one sounds familiar, but I'll check into it.

It's not a big priority, but while we're discussing things having issues, there's the occasional delay between an action and the sound effect associated with it.

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yeaah so i was watching some old videos of the game the other day. when tommy spawned in, he said "this is between me & jason".. i seen another where tommy says "jason belongs in hell, im going to see he gets there".

@mattshotcha why was this feature removed? is it ever coming back?

another thing i noticed is back then, if jason resisted the sweater stun before they could activate the big kill, jason did the "slow head tilt" made famous by the star of halloween, michael myers. it seems this animation was removed as well.. any info would be appreciated.

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6 minutes ago, glowing ooze said:

another thing i noticed is back then, if jason resisted the sweater stun before they could activate the big kill, jason did the "slow head tilt" made famous by the star of halloween, michael myers. it seems this animation was removed as well.. any info would be appreciated.

I don't remember this, but if true I gotta see this.

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On 6/26/2020 at 8:15 PM, glowing ooze said:

yeaah so i was watching some old videos of the game the other day. when tommy spawned in, he said "this is between me & jason".. i seen another where tommy says "jason belongs in hell, im going to see he gets there".

@mattshotcha why was this feature removed? is it ever coming back?

 

2 years later and something as basic as re-enabling/reconfiguring audio files still remains unrectified smh. If I recall correctly some Tommy dialogue was removed to make him less cowardice but that still doesn't account for all his missing audio. It should have been sorted ages ago along with:

  • Stun Resistance not actually working as a Jason Weakness/Strength.
  • Block Chance not a mechanic of Jason's Defense weakness.
  • A.J. making male (presumably Chad) sounds when jogging.
  • Legendary Lead Foot bonus incorrectly stating "Car Start Speed Decreased." Either the start speed is increased or the start time is decreased (as stated for Grease Monkey).
  • Jason kill music and end of match music not corresponding to the Music Volume setting and instead controlled by the Master Volume setting. (Possibly intended to be this way but it's not conventional when the Master Volume controls both the game music and sound effects.)

As much as it can be said that those are issues of a low priority, I highly doubt that Black Tower would require months of investigation to resolve them (with the exception of Block Chance) in a bid to add that little bit of polish to the game.

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Wow, I had forgotten all about Tommy's lines when he spawned in. It really has been years since they were heard in game. Would be nice to see these restored in a future patch!

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I can bring this up to the team and see what might have happened to the audio. I know issues like this are lower priority, but it never hurts to check in on them.

EDIT: Pinged the team on it and we'll take another look. In all honesty, it may have been something that fell through the cracks as lowest priority. But we'll take a second look.

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