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COUNSELORS (Teenagers) SHOULD FEAR JASON

We all know that our dear Jason has become a barbie
no one is afraid of him anymore, nowadays if u are playing as Jason, and in case u are against some experienced players of counselor this is what will happen.

1.Counselors will be provided with an absurd amount of medical kit and stun weapons.
2. Escaping will be a secondary goal to them and Trolling Jason will be the main goal.
3. Jason will be stuned SEVERAL TIMES, over and over again, seconds after the last stun and will continue without stopping.
4. Meanwhile, the counselors will be using the "wonderful new emotes", to dance and troll Jason while he is stunned.
5. In the middle of that, arround all those counselors, if u grab someone, u will be punished with more stuns, if u try to kill someone with M1 they will keep healing themselves over and over again.

IT'S NOT FUN ANYMORE PLAYING AS JASON

Obviously, there's a chance that u play against less experienced players, who don't have the knowledge of how to turn the game into a hell for Jason, and during those matchs the game is actually balanced, people are worried about running away and not forming a gang to kick jason's ass.

My ideas is:
1. Drastically reduce the stamina recovery the longer you are close to Jason
2. It's ridiculous that Jason can be stuneds several times in a row should be a waiting time for two consecutives stuns or more, like 15 - 30 seconds.
3. Emotes should cost a lot of stamina, Emotes should be used for communication or in safe places, NOT AROUND JASON, COME ON!
4. After the police arrive, all pocket knives should become unusable, this would avoid trolling on the road, and i rly think that should be an Skill Check to use pocket knifes
the difficulty should be according to your "repair stats", characters like Vanessa they already run a lot, pockets knife shouldn't be good with those fast counselours.
5.The gamen need to be more about "hiding and trying to escape from Jason", than "running in circles around him"

One more thing, i would like that one dev play as Jason against the best players here in the forum, just to taste hell for a second ?

srry about my engrish :~~
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No toxic comments pls, i'm just talking and giving suggestions about my opinions, no one is obliged to agree with me, xoxox ;**

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I could possibly agree with #1 & 2, but I am indifferent about #3, and disagree with #4. My own solution would be to have Jason develop immunity to weapons. For instance, a bat would stun the first time, but not the second or third. After the second stun, he becomes totally immune, no matter who down the line uses one against him. This would also go for flare guns, firecrackers, and shotguns. Something along those lines. 

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@Lexandremon

I don't agree with much of what you suggested, but I do agree with the problems.

And for the record, the only time I watched @Randygbk's stream he was killed as Jason. 

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6 hours ago, Lexandremon said:

1. Drastically reduce the stamina recovery the longer you are close to Jason

I'm fine with this, but there already kinda is a decrease in stamina recovery because of the fear mechanic. It's kinda hard to recover stamina unless you have low fear. Nevertheless, I guess this is ok. 

 

6 hours ago, Lexandremon said:

 2. It's ridiculous that Jason can be stuneds several times in a row should be a waiting time for two consecutives stuns or more, like 15 - 30 seconds.

That time pool is too long, decrease it. 

 

6 hours ago, Lexandremon said:

 3. Emotes should cost a lot of stamina, Emotes should be used for communication or in safe places, NOT AROUND JASON, COME ON!

meh

 

6 hours ago, Lexandremon said:

 4. After the police arrive, all pocket knives should become unusable, this would avoid trolling on the road, and i rly think that should be an Skill Check to use pocket knifes

It really wouldn't avoid trolling on the road. They can just be good at dodging or they will save their teamates. It doesn't make sense to disable the pocket knives lol, what about the people who won't troll and have a pocket knife? I guess maybe skill checks would be ok, but not removing them entirely. 

 

6 hours ago, Lexandremon said:

Skill Check to use pocket knifes
 the difficulty should be according to your "repair stats",

I think composure would be more suitable. You don't have to be smart to drive a knife in Jason's neck, you'd be a badass to do that. It would also give high composure characters more utility. 

 

6 hours ago, Lexandremon said:

5.The gamen need to be more about "hiding and trying to escape from Jason", than "running in circles around him"

I don't think the game will turn to a better state anytime soon lol, it's always gonna be running in circles. 

 

6 hours ago, Lexandremon said:

One more thing, i would like that one dev play as Jason against the best players here in the forum, just to taste hell for a second ?

Lol just like the DBD Dev XDDD. He played hag against 4 players and constantly got flashlighted in the face, he ended up nerfing flashlight because of that. 

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3 minutes ago, Qcici said:

I think composure would be more suitable. You don't have to be smart to drive a knife in Jason's neck, you'd be a badass to do that. It would also give high composure characters more utility

This right here, composure is why final girls survive. ?

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6 hours ago, CountYorgaVampir said:

After the second stun, he becomes totally immune, no matter who down the line uses one against him

That could be good either

2 hours ago, Qcici said:

It doesn't make sense to disable the pocket knives lol, what about the people who won't troll and have a pocket knife? I guess maybe skill checks would be ok, but not removing them entirely. 

Yeah, i got your point, skill check would be great though

2 hours ago, Qcici said:

I think composure would be more suitable. You don't have to be smart to drive a knife in Jason's neck, you'd be a badass to do that. It would also give high composure characters more utility. 

This makes more sense, composure do deal with jason with a Pocket Knife

 

4 hours ago, The Gunslinger said:

This thread made by a player who don't knows how to block.

1. You know that there's a delay after the first block?
2. Can u block your back? i don't think so
3. Wait until you get trapped (surrounded) by counselors, karma is a bitch

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Meanwhile inside the game:
"Vanessa Player" running around, and using emotes after stuns, and when i finally grab her she just "quit from the game"
without any punishment or whatever. Best game ever

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2 hours ago, Lexandremon said:

That could be good either

Yeah, i got your point, skill check would be great though

This makes more sense, composure do deal with jason with a Pocket Knife

 

1. You know that there's a delay after the first block?
2. Can u block your back? i don't think so
3. Wait until you get trapped (surrounded) by counselors, karma is a bitch

1.I know. 

2. You can I know I know I tried that shit.

3. Already happened to me. But I made it out alive IF I wasn't using savini Jason. SJ Weapon Hit Detection sucks, but he has weapon strength wtf ?

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2 hours ago, Lexandremon said:

1. You know that there's a delay after the first block?
2. Can u block your back? i don't think so
3. Wait until you get trapped (surrounded) by counselors, karma is a bitch

There is no delay after blocking an attack if you know how to cancel out of it. There are techniques where you can block grab, block tk and block swing counselors to punish them.

Jason block is a full circle. He can be facing away from a counselor and still block while they try to hit him from behind. I know it works because I always enter doorways with my block up while counselors tries to hide behind it and hit me from behind and somehow I am still able to block it.

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21 minutes ago, Loading said:

There is no delay after blocking an attack if you know how to cancel out of it. There are techniques where you can block grab, block tk and block swing counselors to punish them.

Jason block is a full circle. He can be facing away from a counselor and still block while they try to hit him from behind. I know it works because I always enter doorways with my block up while counselors tries to hide behind it and hit me from behind and somehow I am still able to block it.

I don't know, i think that Jason should be agressive, not defensive... u know, he is the KILLER, he is JASON

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13 hours ago, Lexandremon said:

One more thing, i would like that one dev play as Jason against the best players here in the forum, just to taste hell for a second ?

I did this already, stunned and trolled Randy when he played one night.

I agree with all, emotes should cost stamina due to dancing around.

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7 hours ago, Lexandremon said:

Meanwhile inside the game:
"Vanessa Player" running around, and using emotes after stuns, and when i finally grab her she just "quit from the game"
without any punishment or whatever. Best game ever

TkptLOH.jpg

Salt mines will fix that soon lol. 

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Ehh...I know Jason players get pissed at players who troll but those dances are not that stamina consuming if you wanna be realistic. I mean how much stamina do you think they are gonna lose from the slow boogie? Not much if any at all and CERTAINLY not drastically. Pocket knives worthless after the police arrive I completely disagree with, there is only 4 max per round...take them in the neck and then kill them, it is their only way of survival. And of there was a skillc check (which their shouldn’t be), it should be based on composure not repair...what does a knife have to do wih repair? It is so easy for Jason to get 8/8 on a Quick Play lobby. There is barely any knives in a round so why should there be a skill check with an already hard to find item? Anyways...people fail to realize that it is extremely difficult to hide from Jason when he has the terminator sense and sense spamming. It is basically run and fight since you spotted super easily...I hate comparing these games but DBD is much better in terms of fixing and hiding you can hide from the killer in plain sight and actually stealth. F13 you run and fight Jason, not point in stealthing when you glow red anyways.

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On 5/2/2018 at 8:47 PM, Im A Deku Scrub said:

I agree with everything here. ??

Same, me too! 

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8 hours ago, Qcici said:

Salt mines will fix that soon lol. 

I doubt It, Counselors, will just commit suicide, as an alternative. Plus I’m sure these players, are going to purposely get them self's into the “Salt-Mines” So, that they can troll without punishment.

But, hey at least they won’t be in the normal QuickPlay Lobbies. 

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12 hours ago, Redcat345 said:

I did this already, stunned and trolled Randy when he played one night.

I agree with all, emotes should cost stamina due to dancing around.

You did? What was his reaction? Can you link me the stream Clip, Please?

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5 hours ago, Dead Meme said:

You did? What was his reaction? Can you link me the stream Clip, Please?

Don't have a clip, I was playing as Mitch on Higgins small, but he got frustrated as J3, muttering "a pocketknife, you little bitch, aggggh!" at the one knife I had, then killed me, then I came back as Tommy, stunned him twice, rescued Fox to the cops and he said: "run away, run away" with a frustrated sigh of defeat.

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10 minutes ago, Redcat345 said:

Don't have a clip, I was playing as Mitch on Higgins small, but he got frustrated as J3, muttering "a pocketknife, you little bitch, aggggh!" at the one knife I had, then killed me, then I came back as Tommy, stunned him twice, rescued Fox to the cops and he said: "run away, run away" with a frustrated sigh of defeat.

Lol, poor Randy. I wish I'd caught his streams, they couldn't have all been as bad for him as I've heard. Still funny to hear him bitch about a PK.

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6 hours ago, Redcat345 said:

Don't have a clip, I was playing as Mitch on Higgins small, but he got frustrated as J3, muttering "a pocketknife, you little bitch, aggggh!" at the one knife I had, then killed me, then I came back as Tommy, stunned him twice, rescued Fox to the cops and he said: "run away, run away" with a frustrated sigh of defeat.

Don’t you think, since he Is a Dev, he would be a very good Jason? And know’s exactly how to kill a Counselor, In every scenario? I've studied this Game, very closely, and figured out some stuff that I didn't even know about. But, I learned how to play as Jason, from @Tommy86. He, Is very good at showing, and explaining counters to almost every scenario!

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3 hours ago, Dead Meme said:

Don’t you think, since he Is a Dev, he would be a very good Jason? And know’s exactly how to kill a Counselor, In every scenario? I've studied this Game, very closely, and figured out some stuff that I didn't even know about. But, I learned how to play as Jason, from @Tommy86. He, Is very good at showing, and explaining counters to almost every scenario!

HA. That's very funny! You're quick to assume that the devs always has enough time to play their game. I have Randy added on PS4 and when he's online, he spends time playing Ratchet and Clank, rather than his own game. Only time I see that he plays his game is when he streams lol. 

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15 minutes ago, Qcici said:

HA. That's very funny! You're quick to assume that the devs always has enough time to play their game. I have Randy added on PS4 and when he's online, he spends time playing Ratchet and Clank, rather than his own game. Only time I see that he plays his game is when he streams lol. 

Wow.....that’s sad. 

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On 5/3/2018 at 10:39 PM, Redcat345 said:

I did this already, stunned and trolled Randy when he played one night.

I agree with all, emotes should cost stamina due to dancing around.

Simple, People will either stop using Emotes or Still use them.

This fixes nothing, Trolls will be trolls 

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1 hour ago, SmugDoka said:

Simple, People will either stop using Emotes or Still use them.

This fixes nothing, Trolls will be trolls 

But it will increase the ability of Jason to catch them when dancing.

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