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1 hour ago, BeautyNumber2 said:

The game is rated M for mature, therefore there should be no children even playing the game.

This pseudo-logic never fails to amuse me. That the ESRB "believes [F13 the Game] is generally suitable for those aged 17 years and older" does not have any inherent meaning as to what people should do. Certainly it's not determinative of what they're legally allowed to do.

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3 minutes ago, Dr. Lecter said:

This pseudo-logic never fails to amuse me. That the ESRB "believes [F13 the Game] is generally suitable for those aged 17 years and older" does not have any inherent meaning as to what people should do. Certainly it's not any kind of legally relevant fact as to what they're allowed to do.

I'll remember you said this when you come back here asking why there's animal carcasses under your kids' beds.

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1 minute ago, Bropollocreed79 said:

I'll remember you said this when you come back here asking why there's animal carcasses under your kids' beds.

The fault would obviously be mine, for failing to teach them the Eleventh Commandment: Thou Shalt Not Get Caught.

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2 minutes ago, Dr. Lecter said:

The fault would obviously be mine, for failing to teach them the Eleventh Commandment: Thou Shalt Not Get Caught.

Oh, so you're married too!

Because I know everything is always my fault in Casa de Creed.

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12 minutes ago, Dr. Lecter said:

This pseudo-logic never fails to amuse me. That the ESRB "believes [F13 the Game] is generally suitable for those aged 17 years and older" does not have any inherent meaning as to what people should do. Certainly it's not determinative of what they're legally allowed to do.

That’s why you are objectively wrong. There’s no “pseudo-logic” involved with restricting violence, gore, and nudity from people who are legally children. Why not just let children into R-rated movies then? And while we’re at it, let’s get rid of the age of consent too. These are just a recommendations according to you. The only faulty logic is your own. You don’t go watch an R-rated movie expecting to see children in the theatre. You don’t go to a tattoo parlor expecting to see children in seats getting prepped for tattoos. You do not watch pornography expecting to see children in the film! You don’t go to a wedding expecting to see children getting married. I do not play an M-rated game with violence and gore expecting there to be children. What don’t you understand about things that are appropriate for adults, and things that are appropriate for children? Smh. 

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10 minutes ago, BeautyNumber2 said:

That’s why you are objectively wrong....

Then you should have no problem pointing me to the legal authority that prohibits children from playing an ESRB M-rated game, right? But, at least as far as US law goes (and I don't mean to speak beyond its scope), there's no such authority. For further discussion of why that's the case, I suggest reading Brown v. Entertainment Merchants Ass'n, 564 U.S. 786 (2011).
 

If what you mean to say is 'I feel strongly about who should be allowed to play M-rated games,' cool. But your personal feeling about what others ought to do is hardly an objective matter, and your false equivalency between M-rated games and the age of consent won't fly in any court other than the one between your ears.

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Every parent knows the ESRB rating goes out the window via the "online interactions" line. 

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So I played in multiple games over the past few days where some loud obnoxious kid was talking shit to everyone and openly helping Jason track down every player.  I stayed on once I was killed just to watch him and Jason walking side by side trying to find the ones leftover, so it wasn't just a matter of him yelling out where people were.  I wish there was a way to get them banned for life from the game!  I know it's just a game, but shit like that makes people not even want to play...

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16 minutes ago, j3o1e1 said:

So I played in multiple games over the past few days where some loud obnoxious kid was talking shit to everyone and openly helping Jason track down every player.  I stayed on once I was killed just to watch him and Jason walking side by side trying to find the ones leftover, so it wasn't just a matter of him yelling out where people were.  I wish there was a way to get them banned for life from the game!  I know it's just a game, but shit like that makes people not even want to play...

Yeah i was in a lobby  like that last night played pt.3 Jason killed them all next game played as  Lachappa called the cops and for the 5mins. till they showed up the two of them tried but failed

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So is dedicated servers more so about $ or what? Its 2018 and games have implemented DS's for a decade or more. Whats the deal?

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My main issue with the game is random crashes during the pregame lobby. I've coped with and adapted to all the bugs and issues and I never make complaints about them because, despite backing the game, I understand it's a matter of trial and error at times. The pregame lobby crashing my entire game is unacceptable though.

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On 1/16/2018 at 7:09 PM, Dr. Lecter said:

This pseudo-logic never fails to amuse me. That the ESRB "believes [F13 the Game] is generally suitable for those aged 17 years and older" does not have any inherent meaning as to what people should do. Certainly it's not determinative of what they're legally allowed to do.

I look at it like when parents bring their kids to the bar. Not something I'm keen on but whatever. At the same time I refrain my right to drop F bombs like a sailor. Don't like it. Tough shit. Don't bring your kid to the bar. Same with this game.

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On 1/14/2018 at 4:10 AM, Splatterhouse said:

I'm done with multiplayer until the next patch....2/3 games Jason is killed. Pathetic really. What used to be "Scream" is now "Scary Movie". 

I noticed @GunMedia_Ben was here posting about balancing things. Look no further than the Oct. 11 patch. Recreate that.

On 1/14/2018 at 7:06 PM, DasMurich said:

I think I'm just about done with the game. At least until the balance patch comes out. If they fuck that up, which is likely, I think I'm just walking away. I can have fun, sometimes, playing as a counselor but that's not why I got the game. I got the game to have fun playing as Jason Voorhees and there is just so much stupid in this game right now.

I've seen, multiple times here, people making comments that they just go AFK when they're in a lobby full of trolls. The showboating pricks that just refuse to escape. The stay-behinds. If I'm Jason and I fail to kill you and you escape, congratulations. But if you stay behind because you want to go looping through windows, run circles around a fucking table, go back and forth and back and forth and back and forth with the car? Whatever, I'm going back to my cabin, see ya later.

It's funny, on one hand, because it actually works. It actually makes many if the trolls angry you won't play their game and feed their ego. I actually never would have thought to do this were it not for folks here on the forum. On the other hand, the fact that this is even a thing, I can't stand it anymore. 

This game is not Friday the 13th, it's just a game with Jason in it.

This is why the chase shouldn't last as long as it currently does. The old grab range helped shorten the chase. It maybe shouldn't be overly long, but the grab range needs to be long enough to make running through the woods a death wish, like it was circa Oct. 11.

On 1/14/2018 at 7:53 PM, Dr. Lecter said:

Yesterday I had one Jason just fail to drop despite a proper sweater stun followed by several quick bat whacks (yes, I was close enough)...think it was because he was too close to a building corner, and another drop to his knees and then slide -- on his knees the whole time -- halfway across the map away from Tommy. Never seen that one before. 

In terms of venting, this is more about the players than the game, but it never fails to amuse me. This morning, I join a full QP lobby and spawn into Higgins Small. I run up to get the sweater right away, run smack into Jason, and then proceed to beat the shit out of him for a minute or two; three others show up and it turns into a gangbang. Less than five minutes into the match, Jason rage-quits without a single kill. Back in the lobby full of people between level 80 and 150, everyone agrees (1) that guy was a pussy for not staying and fighting, (2) Jason is desperately in need of a huge buff, and (3) there are way too many knives, sprays, and shotguns on the map

Next game, same map, and I'm Part IV. A gang of 5 repair the 4 seater and try the same thing with me right away. After a few teabags and "Eeeeeasy Jason!" taunts, they realize they've bitten off more than they can chew when two die in one swipe and a third dies by knife while trying to limp clear to heal. Two run off, and a new third loops in trying to get the car started hoping I chase the two running off. Jarvis spawns, there's noise about getting my mask off, and finally the bitching about my slashing begins in earnest. Jarvis and two more die in a scrum by the barn, leaving me with a Tiffany and a Vanessa to finish off. Last one dies with only 2:10 left on the clock, and the whining about how I suck for taking soooooo long and only went 8/8 because I slashed them to death reaches a salty crescendo.  

The cognitive dissonance must be intense :JasonPt4:

This happens when they think they can just pound you but if they actively play the objectives and not attack with reckless abandon, Jason is at a supreme (and spectacularly boring) disadvantage.

On 1/14/2018 at 9:29 PM, noahvt said:

I love playing this game and I probably won't stop anytime soon but something will have to change or this game will be dead in the distant future.

Even though I really enjoy whacking Jason over the head with a bat many times in a row but I'd rather be scared of him and have a thrilling experience every single round. The bots show us how the game is supposed to be played, hiding from this maniac killer and actually try to survive. All you see right now is people trolling the absolute living shit out of Jason because hes definitely not that scary anymore... 

I'm hoping they balance this out very soon. Give the counselors a chance at surviving but also give Jason a buff (less pocket knives to begin with) so trying to fight him becomes a suicide mission and should only be done in an emergency.

I'd hate to see this game die because it's my favourite game so far but if they keep ruining it with every new patch, this will eventually happen...

 

I knew the game would suffer within 2 games of the Oct 26 patch. It was painfully obvious to me that the game had been significantly damaged. I hope they are listening and fix things. If it were up to me, I'd reset back to the Oct. 11 patch and dial back the grab range 1 in-game foot. The game was the most fun before the drop icons and grab nerf.

On 1/14/2018 at 11:55 PM, AldermachXI said:

Odd. I manage just fine under the exact same circumstances. Then again, I just start slashing when counselors decide to get close. I've basically been using J3 exclusively since the patch. Sucks to have to resort to that. But it's the only way to balance the scales.

I do notice a lot of lobbies going for the kill though. I make sure to make quick work of the sweater girl or Tommy a.s.a.p. when either is in play.

Thanks for the dialog you gave with @GunMedia_Ben. You and the others posting around that time did a good job of conveying my frustrations. ...and yeah, the only Jasons worth playing are the running Jasons, of which J3 is the best.

On 1/16/2018 at 12:52 PM, BeautyNumber2 said:

Way too many fucking kids playing this game now. Their presence alone ruins a lobby. Once you add them talking, their shitty playing, and inability to make decisions, it’s insufferable. I’ve consistently had to just mute 1/4 of the lobby and that’s if anyone is even using mics. 

As well, I’m extremely disappointed to see so many high-level players slashing to completing and see everyone was murdered. Sure, slash Tommy and murder one or two who were trolling, but this utter fear of grabbing because someone might have a pocket knife is getting out of hand. The response to another item increase has decreased the quality of Jasons. 

Jason's grab is a waste of time. I wouldn't use it either. It takes way too much time to close the distance to secure a grab only to suffer a pocket knife and be back at square one. Either you slash or 6 or 7 people escape.

On 1/16/2018 at 2:07 PM, Bropollocreed79 said:

Which is sad, because these few changes could bring the game back to where it should be.  I didn't play through the glory days of the Jason Force Grab, but even between October (when the physical retail copy came about) and December (the latest patch), the difference in the item spawns is ridiculous.

Man! You missed out on the greatest Friday the 13th experience of our time! The only thing people really complained about during that time were the glitches, exploits, and annoying bugs. ...but the game was so fun you didn't even care! lol!

Hopefully the devs make Jason a threat again.

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1 hour ago, Caulus said:

This happens when they think they can just pound you but if they actively play the objectives and not attack with reckless abandon, Jason is at a supreme (and spectacularly boring) disadvantage.

Agree 100% - counselors are their own greatest enemy these days. Conversely, as Jason the best thing I can get is a bunch of people who'd rather troll/go for the kill over efficiently escaping ASAP. It won't be much fun, but I'm much more likely to wipe the lobby.

If that same group had focused on only engaging/stunning me long enough to get the 4 seater fixed, then shifted to the nearby phone house to split me between the call and the car start, anywhere from 4-6 of them would have escaped for sure.

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3 hours ago, Dr. Lecter said:

Agree 100% - counselors are their own greatest enemy these days. Conversely, as Jason the best thing I can get is a bunch of people who'd rather troll/go for the kill over efficiently escaping ASAP. It won't be much fun, but I'm much more likely to wipe the lobby.

If that same group had focused on only engaging/stunning me long enough to get the 4 seater fixed, then shifted to the nearby phone house to split me between the call and the car start, anywhere from 4-6 of them would have escaped for sure.

Agreed.

I still either wipe lobbies clean or at times 1-2 escape because shit happens...But if the counselors played properly, the majority could get away pretty easily.

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With all the issues in the game right now i had an idea pop into my head last night and i had to make this. All in good fun of course.

 

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Just logged in to say I'm officially done with this game until the new patch, if that doesn't put some respect on Jason's name then I'm done for good and I hope this f**king game dies.

Just played for about 5 hours today, every time I got Jason was the most FRUSTRATING experiences I've ever had since launch. The new meta seems to be juke Jason and when you run out of stamina.....Just turn around and smack him ONE f**king time and get your stamina back since Jason's hit detection is so LAUGHABLY bad that you won't get a slash off before you eat a f**king wrench to the face. Rinse and repeat until game timer runs out. On the off chance that Jason DOES grab one of these douches, you either get a knife to the neck or they rage quit in your grasp if they don't have one.

Playing as a counselor yields no challenge, cops are called and objectives fixed on the regular, if they're not....It only means the counselors are having a Jason ass kicking contest to see who can embarrass him more.

This is pathetic, Gun Media/IIfonic, SHAME ON YOU for turning a horror icon into a bumbling f**king idiot to appease these types of players. SHAME ON YOU for not IMMEDIATELY fixing him when it was discovered how bad he actually is once you took away the only OP things about him (Grab/trap stack)

SHAME ON YOU for giving these whiny counselor babies MORE med sprays and MORE pocket knifes and window force fields and MORE shotguns and giving Jason NOTHING IN RETURN.

This game.....Hell, this whole damn franchise... is about JASON!!! NOT THE STUPID MEATBAGS HE KILLS!!! Why are you catering to them? If they can't stand dying as a counselor then THEY ARE PLAYING THE WRONG F**KING GAME CONSIDERING DYING IS WHAT 98% OF THEM DID IN THE MOVIES.

Let me be clear Gun Media/IIfonic, I DO NOT support YOU. I support and love Friday the 13th, and what you've done to it's main character over the course of 3 months DISGUSTS me. Fix him, fix this game, otherwise I hope this game dies a painful death and you NEVER get trusted another great horror IP.

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On 1/20/2018 at 3:34 AM, R.J MacReady said:

Angry rant

Well, this is exactly why I started this thread, so people could vent without making new ones. Sometimes it's cathartic to get shit off of your chest.

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Stop catering to the whiny counselor players. Make suicides count as kills, temp match join bans for players that rage quit when Jason catches them, reduce knives and shotguns.

Also find a a way to add Pamela and Roy/JasonX.

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8 hours ago, R.J MacReady said:

Just logged in to say I'm officially done with this game until the new patch, if that doesn't put some respect on Jason's name then I'm done for good and I hope this f**king game dies.

Just played for about 5 hours today, every time I got Jason was the most FRUSTRATING experiences I've ever had since launch. The new meta seems to be juke Jason and when you run out of stamina.....Just turn around and smack him ONE f**king time and get your stamina back since Jason's hit detection is so LAUGHABLY bad that you won't get a slash off before you eat a f**king wrench to the face. Rinse and repeat until game timer runs out. On the off chance that Jason DOES grab one of these douches, you either get a knife to the neck or they rage quit in your grasp if they don't have one.

Playing as a counselor yields no challenge, cops are called and objectives fixed on the regular, if they're not....It only means the counselors are having a Jason ass kicking contest to see who can embarrass him more.

This is pathetic, Gun Media/IIfonic, SHAME ON YOU for turning a horror icon into a bumbling f**king idiot to appease these types of players. SHAME ON YOU for not IMMEDIATELY fixing him when it was discovered how bad he actually is once you took away the only OP things about him (Grab/trap stack)

SHAME ON YOU for giving these whiny counselor babies MORE med sprays and MORE pocket knifes and window force fields and MORE shotguns and giving Jason NOTHING IN RETURN.

This game.....Hell, this whole damn franchise... is about JASON!!! NOT THE STUPID MEATBAGS HE KILLS!!! Why are you catering to them? If they can't stand dying as a counselor then THEY ARE PLAYING THE WRONG F**KING GAME CONSIDERING DYING IS WHAT 98% OF THEM DID IN THE MOVIES.

Let me be clear Gun Media/IIfonic, I DO NOT support YOU. I support and love Friday the 13th, and what you've done to it's main character over the course of 3 months DISGUSTS me. Fix him, fix this game, otherwise I hope this game dies a painful death and you NEVER get trusted another great horror IP.

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I agree with you 100%. I have been a fan of the franchise when i saw the first one when i was 3 years old back in 1985 and to see what has been done to Jason is just unacceptable. Leading up to the game's release and even a little while after the devs stance was always Jason is OP and that is how it is supposed to be, counselors have a minor chance at survival and it should be a challenge and a reward when you do. Since the Oct patch they have done nothing except cater to all the cry babies who can't handle losing a game Which says a lot about them individually as a person. The game is supposed to be hard, you are supposed to die a lot, that is just how it is not the other way around. Counselors shouldn't jump into a match with the objective of solely exploiting all the issues that plague Jason and teabag and dance all over him all the while never completing an actual objective. These along with many other issues is why i made a video regarding the state of the game and how it needs to be fixed. For anyone who hasn't seen it i will link it here. @ShiftySamurai @GunMedia_Ben I hope you guys can check it out and know that all of this is coming from a die herd fan of this franchise who wants this game to be as successful as it can be and to have a long life span.

 

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I find it really difficult as jason, especially against high level councilors. It is strange how the game has been steered towards them just kicking the shit out of jason, I mean they just hang out in packs and it's very difficult to clean up in 20 minutes.

Jason needs a boost, I'd say they have to stop making melee such a slam dunk on jason, maybe too many hits in quick succession causes a rage meter invulnerability to stun with a cool down. That way councilors know not to push their luck - they can have a few free hits then they need to run.

**I might add that  I don't think anything that radical would be implemented this late in the game life cycle and it's gonna stay pretty much as it is. *

I think there's got to be an overall reduction in weapons and med sprays too.  

 

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8 hours ago, R.J MacReady said:

Just logged in to say I'm officially done with this game until the new patch, if that doesn't put some respect on Jason's name then I'm done for good and I hope this f**king game dies.

Just played for about 5 hours today, every time I got Jason was the most FRUSTRATING experiences I've ever had since launch. The new meta seems to be juke Jason and when you run out of stamina.....Just turn around and smack him ONE f**king time and get your stamina back since Jason's hit detection is so LAUGHABLY bad that you won't get a slash off before you eat a f**king wrench to the face. Rinse and repeat until game timer runs out. On the off chance that Jason DOES grab one of these douches, you either get a knife to the neck or they rage quit in your grasp if they don't have one.

Playing as a counselor yields no challenge, cops are called and objectives fixed on the regular, if they're not....It only means the counselors are having a Jason ass kicking contest to see who can embarrass him more.

This is pathetic, Gun Media/IIfonic, SHAME ON YOU for turning a horror icon into a bumbling f**king idiot to appease these types of players. SHAME ON YOU for not IMMEDIATELY fixing him when it was discovered how bad he actually is once you took away the only OP things about him (Grab/trap stack)

SHAME ON YOU for giving these whiny counselor babies MORE med sprays and MORE pocket knifes and window force fields and MORE shotguns and giving Jason NOTHING IN RETURN.

This game.....Hell, this whole damn franchise... is about JASON!!! NOT THE STUPID MEATBAGS HE KILLS!!! Why are you catering to them? If they can't stand dying as a counselor then THEY ARE PLAYING THE WRONG F**KING GAME CONSIDERING DYING IS WHAT 98% OF THEM DID IN THE MOVIES.

Let me be clear Gun Media/IIfonic, I DO NOT support YOU. I support and love Friday the 13th, and what you've done to it's main character over the course of 3 months DISGUSTS me. Fix him, fix this game, otherwise I hope this game dies a painful death and you NEVER get trusted another great horror IP.

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Hey bro, everything you ranted about is exactly how i feel. I havent played in approx. 3 weeks after almost punching tv. We all know how you feel and i too think this game is a comedy, not a horror. Like weve all said, it should be a fucking achievement to escape from Jason. It shouldn't be like, "hey bro tonight im going to lay jason out with the frying pan and see if i can do a 5 second teabag HEHEHE." Like what in the actual fuck is going on? I DONT UNDERSTAND what is happening to this game. My friends used to come over on weekends just to crack a few beer and play f13th because it was fun. This shit does not happen anymore because even they don't find it fun now. I am starting to see a layer of dust on the case...if the next patch is shit i am afraid the game will be overcome by dust bunnies! R.I.P Jason?❤

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20 minutes ago, Jballz said:

Hey bro, everything you ranted about is exactly how i feel. I havent played in approx. 3 weeks after almost punching tv. We all know how you feel and i too think this game is a comedy, not a horror. Like weve all said, it should be a fucking achievement to escape from Jason. It shouldn't be like, "hey bro tonight im going to lay jason out with the frying pan and see if i can do a 5 second teabag HEHEHE." Like what in the actual fuck is going on? I DONT UNDERSTAND what is happening to this game. My friends used to come over on weekends just to crack a few beer and play f13th because it was fun. This shit does not happen anymore because even they don't find it fun now. I am starting to see a layer of dust on the case...if the next patch is shit i am afraid the game will be overcome by dust bunnies! R.I.P Jason?❤

Totally agree, escaping should be rewarding and killing at least 5/7 counselors should be doable for most Jason’s that aren’t completely new to the game.

Seeing how the steam playerbase shrunk from 16k to 7k after the patches and now stands at 1-2k players on average a day is very telling about the current state of the game.

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When you're running from Jason and you accidentally go into combat stance. Wish they'd just get rid of it. Wonky AF and causes me more death than anything. Nothing like kiting Jason for 7 minutes to press my thumb too hard on the analog stick and have no chance to get out of it soon enough.

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