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Since Tommy’s role as been adjusted, I’m still seeing a majority of players misuse or even abuse Tommy’s role in helping the counselors escape. How often do you encounter players that are selfish when they play as Tommy? What is the most egregious thing you’ve seen someone do as Tommy? I saw someone spawn in as Tommy only to run to the police instead of helping 3 chicks stuck in the lodge on Packanack. That was pretty selfish. I’ve also seen Tommy run past counselors to catch a ride in a 2-seater, leaving 2 people behind to die.

For me, the most outrageous thing Tommy ever did was leap into the cabin I was hiding in and med-spray himself as I stood there bloody and limping. He had no visible wounds and opted to spray himself instead of healing me covered in blood and on the verge of death. After he ditched me and I died, I saw him use ANOTHER med spray he had for yet another minor abrasion. So he had not only used a med spray on himself, but opted to not give me his other one or spray me. Complete tool. If I spawn back as Tommy, I make it my mission to help the other counselors at all cost. 

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My list of things to do as Tommy Jarvis. 

#1 Shoot Jason in face. Mention revenge loudly.

#2 Grab a weapon. Any weapon will do and loudly proclaim my hatred for Jason for killing my mother and driving my sister crazy. All the while beating the breaks off Jason

#3 Lead the kids toward what ever goal to escape Jason or even kill Jason. 

 

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I beat the crap out of Jason with Tommy every time I was him earlier, taking his mask off several times tonight while people were escaping.  This was nearly all in quick play lobbies though, and how many random quick play lobby people are even worth saving?  If people huddle together in a cabin wasting time and don't help complete objectives or make their way to the police exit or a running vehicle, there's nothing you can do for them anyway.

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i've gotten pretty spoiled playing in private lobbies or with large groups in QP but the last time i flew solo in QP, a tommy came back, b-lined for his dead body, grabbed the keys from his corpse and took off in the 4-seater i'd repaired without picking anyone up. from spawn to escape, he was on the map for MAYBE two minutes. 

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Just an FYI for some players, if you escaped as a counselor and come back as Tommy, you aren't getting an additional escape bonus so you should be more than willing to help the team and distract Jason.   Your time bonus is also frozen.  Only thing you should focus on is getting offensive XP and helping the rest escape.

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5 hours ago, BeautyNumber2 said:

For me, the most outrageous thing Tommy ever did was leap into the cabin I was hiding in and med-spray himself as I stood there bloody and limping. He had no visible wounds and opted to spray himself instead of healing me covered in blood and on the verge of death.

When you're injured i don't think it will let you heal another counselor. I've accidentally sprayed myself instead not realizing I was injured.

2 hours ago, He's Killing Me said:

I beat the crap out of Jason with Tommy every time I was him earlier, taking his mask off several times tonight while people were escaping.  This was nearly all in quick play lobbies though, and how many random quick play lobby people are even worth saving?  If people huddle together in a cabin wasting time and don't help complete objectives or make their way to the police exit or a running vehicle, there's nothing you can do for them anyway.

Quickplay rules are different. It's more of a free for all.

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Nothing annoys me more than a Tommy that comes back and goes and hides ASAP..     

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Even before the change to to Tommy I have always ventured into the camp to help complete objectives for counselors or escort them to the escape. However there are some that are just screwing around instead of escaping that's usually when I just leave but not before shooting Jason in the face because why not?

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Played last night, I saw two Tommy's hunt down Debs in the bunny outfit and shoot them down in cold blood with the shotgun....then proceeded to teabag them.

I don't know if this is a thing or not, but its not the first time I've seen it down. Crazy that I saw it happen within 2 hours last night, in different lobbies, and by different players.

Also once playing as Jason, I went to grab someone as Chad, and the right when I was in the animation to pick him up, he was murdered by Tommy as well....that one I actually saved a clipped to, and its pretty hilarious.

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In a recent game, somebody crashed the 4-seater into Jason just inches away from the exit, and the occupants scattered.

Tommy spawned at the exit (he wasn't one of the original passengers) got in the car, and drove it off the map on his own.

He was active for less than 10 seconds, and in that time managed to remove from the map a 4-person victory condition that he'd had no part in fixing as a counselor, and didn't even drop any of his kit.

Giving Tommy XP penalties is tricky as say he's penalised for leaving people behind, what if they're AFK? Or Jason helpers? Or Tommy's driving a vehicle?

I think it's high time that people start earning or losing Tommy Points based on their behaviour as Tommy to increase your priority of being summoned.

It could have a low-ish cap (say 100), and every time you have a chance of being summoned, but get passed over, you gain 10 regardless, so bad Tommys have a shot at redemption and aren't locked out forever. Also, as it's usually a choice of two players, low point Tommys can still get in when paired against other low point Tommys.

TKs are -100 Tommy Points, and the only things that can put you in negative figures, and change your Tommy points even as a counselor. Run a bunch of people over on purpose, regardless of who you are, and you're not getting Tommy for a long time unless it's between you and an even worse douche.

I think this is the only way to ensure it. If people are asshole Tommys, simply suspend their Tommy privleges.

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Not to mention when Tommy arrives and passes by the fuse box, which the fuse is right before the box and does not repair it!!

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I think that some of these people who come back as Tommy, just to run to the cops or drive away in a car, are just selfish and don't care about any other counselor. Just want to save themselves, which make up about 70% of the players of this game. Especially the ones who try very hard to run over another counselor in a car, which took about three attempts.

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33 minutes ago, Brigadius said:

I usually try to beat off Jason

Umm.... Do I have to tell you what's wrong with that statement?

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8 minutes ago, Truth said:

Umm.... Do I have to tell you what's wrong with that statement?

If he don't know don't tell him :)  I'd never beat him off, even with the wet end.

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some people don't know what to do with Tommy or his purpose. They think its a "second chance". Last night I played in a game with a person who's never seen the movies, and bought the game because it was "cool". he was a early teen I think? admitted he did no research into the game either, just got it and started playing after seeing some videos on twitch. He had no idea who Tommy was and even said he thought it was another shot at trying to escape. I was spectating him as he stood still for a while and didn't move, then hid, and then escaped, never once finding the others to see if they needed help.

Maybe it should be a little more clear what Tommy's objectives should be for people who are not familiar with him (or dont care/bother) to research a game before playing.

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1 minute ago, Punisher_2099 said:

some people don't know what to do with Tommy or his purpose. They think its a "second chance". Last night I played in a game with a person who's never seen the movies, and bought the game because it was "cool". he was a early teen I think? admitted he did no research into the game either, just got it and started playing after seeing some videos on twitch. He had no idea who Tommy was and even said he thought it was another shot at trying to escape. I was spectating him as he stood still for a while and didn't move, then hid, and then escaped, never once finding the others to see if they needed help.

Maybe it should be a little more clear what Tommy's objectives should be for people who are not familiar with him (or dont care/bother) to research a game before playing.

Didn't they add text for when you spawn as Tommy that say "You were chosen as Tommy, Save the others" something to that?

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5 minutes ago, Gstar said:

If he don't know don't tell him :)  I'd never beat him off, even with the wet end.

I mean if he wants to beat off Jason, to each his own. I think I might actually have some respect for someone willing to beat off Jason. Sounds like a HUGE risk to me.

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2 minutes ago, Cutemisfit said:

Didn't they add text for when you spawn as Tommy that say "You were chosen as Tommy, Save the others" something to that?

It may, but i think it flashes so fast... maybe it should come up like how you start as Jason.. showing you what he can and can't do in the flash over bar..

I do know I don't like being Tommy, because people expect him to be played a certain way.. and if you don't people get pissy

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I've had Tommy players help me and disappoint me from game to game..

Pro experience: I was limping away from a Jason that wasn't too far from finishing me off when Tommy ran by, dropped a med spray, and caught Jason's attention enough for me to spray up and run off. "Thank you Tommy!" "No worries man!"

Bad experience: Fuse is still missing, 4 Seater is gone, Tommy is driving off with the 2 seater... by himself.

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1 hour ago, Cutemisfit said:

Didn't they add text for when you spawn as Tommy that say "You were chosen as Tommy, Save the others" something to that?

Not only that, Whenever someone's calling Tommy, their voiceovers are basically begging him to come help the counselors.

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11 hours ago, Malken said:

Not only that, Whenever someone's calling Tommy, their voiceovers are basically begging him to come help the counselors.

BEGGING. Now with the pocket knife and spray, so many people must view being Tommy as being impenetrable and a guarantee survive, I can only venture. 

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A truly selfish Tommy is the only player I will ever get on mic and really call out post-game, unless it's evident they are just quite new. Although I have a friend who as Tommy most of his first few matches and he was a great Tommy. 

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