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2 hours ago, ikarikh said:

The point is, F13 as a franchise is KNOWN for sex, nudity and big breasted women skinny dipping JUST as much as it is for blood and gore and Jason himself.

Complaining that they advertised their swimsuit DLC (That a huge portion of the fanbase asked for) with 2 wallpapers that took them 2 min to make as being sleazy and an insult to the source material of the franchise is pretty inane to me especially since F13 as a franchise has always been geared towards exploitation and sleaze by selling itself 100% on boobs and gore.

Part 9 for example OPENS with an FBI agent going skinny dipping to attract Jason. She doesn't simply walk around the camp until Jason finds her, she purposely gets naked and goes skinny dipping with the sole intent of attracting Jason. That is exploitation to the millionth power.

Fans also have repeatedly requested swimsuits and Chad in a speedo and Tiffany's ass have been huge meme material for the game since launch.

Eye rolling that they released 2 wallpapers catering to all of the above to advertise their DLC is 100% prudish.

People wanted the swimsuits 100% for the sex appeal, otherwise they'd have just asked for alt costumes in general. So to eye roll the company for catering to the sex appeal of the swimsuits is completely silly and definitely prudish.

It'd be like if they advertised the new kills with a wallpaper showing blood and gore and you jump in to complain they're immature for using the lowest common denominator of blood and gore to advertise new kills. That's the definition of being a buzzkill prude about that kinda stuff.

Also keep in mind Prude does not mean a personal hate or abstinence from sex. It merely means you're easily shocked or offended by public displays of it. And that's pretty much exactly the stance you and iheartbreaker took with this in getting uppity over them selling sex appealing swimsuits by focusing on the sex appeal.

You can claim i'm the one with insecurities all you like, but you're the ones getting offended by wallpapers that show off tiff's butt and chad's bulge.

You guys are trying to put a moral highground on a franchise that has no morals to begin with. It's silly.

Lastly regarding the patterns used not being true to the movies. They're 80's inspired and even Vanessa's swimsuit and default color scheme are directly inspired by a nightmare on elm street.

Just because you personally don't like the outfits or patterns used doesn't mean they don't fit or are an insult to the franchise.

I loathe Adam's outfit and think it's 100% 90's, not 80's. But i'm not bitching it's offensive or out of place to the franchise or that the devs are sleazeballs over it. (Hell i wish they had been sleazy when making it, then maybe it wouldn't be such a bleh outfit)

This is an old debate and I'll try to explain the point I was making- I'm entirely fine with wallpapers of counselors in speedos and bikinis, what I disagree with are the wallpapers that cut off the heads of the characters to only show tits and dick. While the Friday the 13th franchise is known for nudity, I can't remember a time where that nudity didn't have a face. For me, I consider it sleaze. If it were a picture of a living person it would be considered dehumanizing to remove that persons head from a photo. I don't think this is a hard concept for anyone to understand.

I'm unconcerned with the moral high ground or prude accusations. It doesn't requiring any moral high ground to show a little tact. ;)

On the patterns... I disagree. We can agree to disagree there. They're not representative of the franchise or even the 80's- particularly considering the maps are all early 80's and late 70's.

2 hours ago, GunMedia_Ben said:

idk bout you guys, but I remember seeing a ton of naked people in all (but one) of the movies. 

I don't think you get the debate here...

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30 minutes ago, bewareofbears said:

This is an old debate and I'll try to explain the point I was making- I'm entirely fine with wallpapers of counselors in speedos and bikinis, what I disagree with are the wallpapers that cut off the heads of the characters to only show tits and dick. While the Friday the 13th franchise is known for nudity, I can't remember a time where that nudity didn't have a face. For me, I consider it sleaze. If it were a picture of a living person it would be considered dehumanizing to remove that persons head from a photo. I don't think this is a hard concept for anyone to understand.

I'm unconcerned with the moral high ground or prude accusations. It doesn't requiring any moral high ground to show a little tact. ;)

On the patterns... I disagree. We can agree to disagree there. They're not representative of the franchise or even the 80's- particularly considering the maps are all early 80's and late 70's.

I don't think you get the debate here...

Hmmm you seem to have selective memory 

Go to the 10 second mark

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2 minutes ago, dandop1984 said:

Hmmm you seem to have selective memory 

Go to the 10 second mark

Tiffany really is a mix of this chick and the twins from Part IV. Bottom half is this chick, top half is the twins.

Perfect.

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5 minutes ago, dandop1984 said:

Hmmm you seem to have selective memory 

Go to the 10 second mark

Well, to be fair, that is an exploitive shot of her, but it is a character with a name and a face, and the shot is used to set up the slingshot. Bears only ever meant he thought it was kind of sad to have to promote a horror game with sleaze. Then everybody got very opinionated. Yeah, there is some gratuitous T&A in the movies, but it isn't the highlight for a lot of people who like the movies.

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6 minutes ago, AldermachXI said:

Tiffany really is a mix of this chick and the twins from Part IV. Bottom half is this chick, top half is the twins.

Perfect.

Kirsten Baker was just at a horror convention last week. This is from Amy Steel's FB page: 

 

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29 minutes ago, Bigfoot said:

Well, to be fair, that is an exploitive shot of her, but it is a character with a name and a face, and the shot is used to set up the slingshot. Bears only ever meant he thought it was kind of sad to have to promote a horror game with sleaze. Then everybody got very opinionated. Yeah, there is some gratuitous T&A in the movies, but it isn't the highlight for a lot of people who like the movies.

Final Chapter also has a similar shot.

Sure filmmaking is different then promotional wallpapers trying to sell some speedos. I'm sure Someone could argue the editor held to long on the steadycam shot of her booty, yeah it was setting up the slingshot, but it's an intentionally  long CU view of her ass, it would of made more sense to put the camera in the bushes as a POV shot, and only use the shot of her ass as soon as the rock hit, but the filmmakers choose to hold for a long time on a rather gratuitous shot.

 

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1 minute ago, dandop1984 said:

Final Chapter also has a similar shot.

Sure filmmaking is different then promotional wallpapers trying to sell some speedos. I'm sure Someone could argue the editor held to long on the steadycam shot of her booty, yeah it was setting up the slingshot, but it's an intentionally  long CU view of her ass, it would of made more sense to put the camera in the bushes as a POV shot, and only use the shot of her ass as soon as the rock hit, but the filmmakers choose to hold for a long time on a rather gratuitous shot.

 

I know it was intentional. Dude was totally ogling. The T&A shots are supposed to be there to ogle, but though they are in the movies, they weren't the selling points in the advertisements for the films. R rated films allowed directors to slip in some nudity when it was still hard for a minor to get materials with nudity in it. This is a time period when this was like bonus material for the teenage crowd they were marketing to. But, the bonus material wasn't used to promote the film. Horror was the focus in the marketing. I can see some people finding the Spring Break promotional material as trashy, but that doesn't really make them prudish. Yes, the ads were to sell the DLC, but it could be interpreted as shamelessly selling/marketing the horror game as something else more exploitive. No, I am not a prude, and yeah, I bought it. Just tired of folks jumping all over each other. I like trashy films, too, by the way. Tromaville Represent!

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1 hour ago, dandop1984 said:

Hmmm you seem to have selective memory 

Go to the 10 second mark

I love that you posted this because it supports my point. That particular shot has context- a girl walks through the woods, a hand creepily lowers a branch and we get a view of her ass as that is what the creep in the bushes is looking at. Thank you. :) 

Now show me the promotional material or poster where they cut off the head of one of the actors and only show their tits/dick/ass.

1 hour ago, Bigfoot said:

Well, to be fair, that is an exploitive shot of her, but it is a character with a name and a face, and the shot is used to set up the slingshot. Bears only ever meant he thought it was kind of sad to have to promote a horror game with sleaze. Then everybody got very opinionated. Yeah, there is some gratuitous T&A in the movies, but it isn't the highlight for a lot of people who like the movies.

You get it. :) I don't know why it's so difficult for others to understand.

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18 minutes ago, bewareofbears said:

I love that you posted this because it supports my point. That particular shot has context- a girl walks through the woods, a hand creepily lowers a branch and we get a view of her ass as that is what the creep in the bushes is looking at. Thank you. :) 

Now show me the promotional material or poster where they cut off the head of one of the actors and only show their tits/dick/ass.

You get it. :) I don't know why it's so difficult for others to understand.

That's a gratuitous shot. This is also filmmaking, and it's much easier to apply context. Than promotional material selling speedos. 

That scene didn't have to hold on her ass as long as it did, it would if made more sense to use a POV shot of her walking and only use the ass shot the second the rock hits. The filmmakers choose to be gratuitous. The final chapter has a similar shot.

The back VHS cover of part 3 had the girl in the shower front and center, you also see some good side boob. Maybe part 3 was selling shower curtain DLC?

 

 

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7 minutes ago, dandop1984 said:

That's a gratuitous shot. This is also filmmaking, and it's much easier to apply context. Than promotional material selling speedos. 

That scene didn't have to hold on her ass as long as it did, it would if made more sense to use a POV shot of her walking and only use the ass shot the second the rock hits. The filmmakers choose to be gratuitous. The final chapter has a similar shot.

The back VHS cover of part 3 had the girl in the shower front and center, you also see some good side boob. Maybe part 3 was selling shower curtain DLC?

 

 

friday3-3.jpg

I'm entirely fine with that shot. It makes sense in context and the skills of the director and editor are always up for debate but don't further any discussion on this particular debate.

You'll notice the gal in the shower still has her head. ;)

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7 minutes ago, bewareofbears said:

I'm entirely fine with that shot. It makes sense in context and the skills of the director and editor are always up for debate but don't further any discussion on this particular debate.

You'll notice the gal in the shower still has her head. ;)

You mentioned you didn't remember a time when Friday the 13th used nudity with out a face. And I posted a shot that clearly was gratuitous and didn't show her face. Yes it's in the actual film, and easy to apply context to it with the shots that proceed and follow.

anyways I do respect your opinion on the matter. I see what you mean, even though I don't entirely agree.

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7 minutes ago, dandop1984 said:

You mentioned you didn't remember a time when Friday the 13th used nudity with out a face. And I posted a shot that clearly was gratuitous and didn't show her face. Yes it's in the actual film, and easy to apply context to it with the shots that proceed and follow.

anyways I do respect your opinion on the matter. I see what you mean, even though I don't entirely agree.

I appreciate your side of it- we don't have to agree. Thanks for debating with good points. :) I think we understand each other's side of the debate.

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Sorry. What I miss? I was checking out updates to Brazzers. I do miss the good old days when porn had a story. Too much in your face stuff nowadays. I wanna hear WHY the plumber showed up......??

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11 minutes ago, Alkavian said:

Sorry. What I miss? I was checking out updates to Brazzers. I do miss the good old days when porn had a story. Too much in your face stuff nowadays. I wanna hear WHY the plumber showed up......??

I wish I had more likes lol 

If I remember the plumper was called in to fix the pipes and fix the toilet.  

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7 hours ago, GunMedia_Ben said:

idk bout you guys, but I remember seeing a ton of naked people in all (but one) of the movies. 

That's true, but how many adults want to put (naked or not) character from game for his/hers wallpaper? Especially when you got such a nice concept art in the game (example loading screens etc)

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Honestly, counselors are stars of Friday the 13th as well.

We know Jason is the ultimate star but the counselors should get love too.

Plus the wallpaper is for the clothing pack, so why not? Also it is to be expected with

a slasher/horror film that allowed t&a. Everyone isn't based around morals and purity thinking like, "oh

my don't hint at sexual things, cover your eyes". That's how you sound OP a little bit. I don't have a problem with you personally,

but am saying I disagree with you about this decision. I will say I agree in different CONTEXT that in the future they should add camp grounds

and Jason wallpapers. Also Chad's wallpaper is okay, since you didn't really disagree with the fashion choice but you pointed out something that would of

been seen in reality anyways. All men have different bulge sizes/looks if they wear a tight speedo. Again the game can have sexual hinting content cause that's

what it says it has for it's esrb rating for "m" for mature content.

 

Also I don't care if I'm repeating anyone in this thread, I rather say what I personally need to say and read everyone else's post later.

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22 minutes ago, huuru said:

That's true, but how many adults want to put (naked or not) character from game for his/hers wallpaper? Especially when you got such a nice concept art in the game (example loading screens etc)

Have you seen Anime? A lot of guys/girls have some steamy pictures of anime girls/guys on their computers. There are some pervs out there that like seeing this stuff lol But I like the full head to toes not let me see that package and butt shot lol But I get why some people want that. 

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1 hour ago, Mysterio said:

Well this was certainly quite the debate for a couple of measly wallpapers,lol. 

Not a whole lot going on around here... I could argue how the game is broken some more but those go nowhere. ;)

54 minutes ago, Dr. Lecter said:

One obnoxious puritan's sleaze is another normal human being's good clean fun between mutually-frisky adults...

Did I become an obnoxious puritan through this debate? :lol:

I should mention I like sleaze- if this was a Slumber Party Massacr game I'd be asking for lingerie clothing packs.

1 hour ago, Alkavian said:

Sorry. What I miss? I was checking out updates to Brazzers. I do miss the good old days when porn had a story. Too much in your face stuff nowadays. I wanna hear WHY the plumber showed up......??

I'm pretty sure softcore is generally more story-driven so I suggest taking it down a few notches from Brazzers if you're looking for story. :lol:

28 minutes ago, Tyler659 said:

Honestly, counselors are stars of Friday the 13th as well.

We know Jason is the ultimate star but the counselors should get love too.

Plus the wallpaper is for the clothing pack, so why not? Also it is to be expected with

a slasher/horror film that allowed t&a. Everyone isn't based around morals and purity thinking like, "oh

my don't hint at sexual things, cover your eyes". That's how you sound OP a little bit. I don't have a problem with you personally,

but am saying I disagree with you about this decision. I will say I agree in different CONTEXT that in the future they should add camp grounds

and Jason wallpapers. Also Chad's wallpaper is okay, since you didn't really disagree with the fashion choice but you pointed out something that would of

been seen in reality anyways. All men have different bulge sizes/looks if they wear a tight speedo. Again the game can have sexual hinting content cause that's

what it says it has for it's esrb rating for "m" for mature content.

 

Also I don't care if I'm repeating anyone in this thread, I rather say what I personally need to say and read everyone else's post later.

I'm disappointed with how many folks missed the point. I'm entirely fine with the wallpapers where the counselors have their heads.

I get the justification yourself and others have put forth- I just disagree with it.

I have no moral high ground to stand on and purity is not a concept I could employ if I wanted to. ;)

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6 minutes ago, bewareofbears said:

I'm pretty sure softcore is generally more story-driven so I suggest taking it down a few notches from Brazzers if you're looking for story. :lol:

Noted. I am too old for this fancy modern sleaze. I need good old 70's porn that had story mode and even the dicks had sideburns.....:lol:

On topic. The wallpaper is fine IMO. I won't be getting it, but hey. To each their own.

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1 hour ago, bewareofbears said:

Not a whole lot going on around here... I could argue how the game is broken some more but those go nowhere. ;)

Did I become an obnoxious puritan through this debate? :lol:

I should mention I like sleaze- if this was a Slumber Party Massacr game I'd be asking for lingerie clothing packs.

I'm pretty sure softcore is generally more story-driven so I suggest taking it down a few notches from Brazzers if you're looking for story. :lol:

I'm disappointed with how many folks missed the point. I'm entirely fine with the wallpapers where the counselors have their heads.

I get the justification yourself and others have put forth- I just disagree with it.

I have no moral high ground to stand on and purity is not a concept I could employ if I wanted to. ;)

Oh no I was talking about Heartbreaker the top OP, unless you are him/she?

What I was skimming off your posts seem like it was budding heads with heartbreaker, lol.

Unless you were agreeing with him/she? If so of course disagree politely but understand where you 

were coming from if it was an E for everyone type of game you could say. I say the things I said, cause I'm a gay male

and just like Chad wearing a speedo and saying yay to equality when it comes to skimpy males vs women.

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10 hours ago, bewareofbears said:

This is an old debate and I'll try to explain the point I was making- I'm entirely fine with wallpapers of counselors in speedos and bikinis, what I disagree with are the wallpapers that cut off the heads of the characters to only show tits and dick. While the Friday the 13th franchise is known for nudity, I can't remember a time where that nudity didn't have a face. For me, I consider it sleaze. If it were a picture of a living person it would be considered dehumanizing to remove that persons head from a photo. I don't think this is a hard concept for anyone to understand.

I'm unconcerned with the moral high ground or prude accusations. It doesn't requiring any moral high ground to show a little tact. ;)

On the patterns... I disagree. We can agree to disagree there. They're not representative of the franchise or even the 80's- particularly considering the maps are all early 80's and late 70's.

I don't think you get the debate here...

Well they include the full body + head wallpapers as well as the headless ones. If it was solely just headless wallpapers it'd be a little different. But i didn't even pay attention to the headless ones originally since I just noticed wallpapers of Tiff and Chad in their swimsuits then saw complaints about dick and ass.

Regardless, I understand your point now that you clarified and it does have validity to it, but we can agree to disagree on the overall.

Thanks for the clarity.

 

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1 hour ago, ikarikh said:

Well they include the full body + head wallpapers as well as the headless ones. If it was solely just headless wallpapers it'd be a little different. But i didn't even pay attention to the headless ones originally since I just noticed wallpapers of Tiff and Chad in their swimsuits then saw complaints about dick and ass.

Regardless, I understand your point now that you clarified and it does have validity to it, but we can agree to disagree on the overall.

Thanks for the clarity.

 

I'm out of likes.

No worries. I probably could've have conveyed my point better from the start. :)

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See profile pic.  The entire point of these characters were to take off their tops in the 30 seconds of screen time they got before being killed. 

Jason 9 also had random counselors who had no role in the movie other than to have sex / show butts and boobs and be killed in less than a minute of screen time.   You wouldn't even know their names were it not for the credits.

Freddy v Jason opens with a nameless counselor who takes off all her clothes and goes skinny dipping for no reason and then is killed. I think she has 2 minutes of screen time.  

This thread really sounds like reaching for something to complain about. Hopefully created out of boredom and not serious. 

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