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Thx to all in support of this inquiry. I will without a doubt report back when and if I hear from the powers that be.

A few things I would like to address.

First my shogun video was shot with my ShogunGamerz acct not my daughters DarkShadow. And to be honest the game is played in a funny manner I did no harm to others in that video. And if you watch my other videos you will see that is pretty much the silliest thing I've ever done. Once again different account. She plays on my steamacct shogungamingllc, and I play on shogungamerz.

Second about my daughter playing this game. She lover survival type games. She has played a few games, like dead by daylight, resident evil (a couple of them), call of duty (Zombie mode), and I think state of decay. She is a very witty gamer. She lover survival horror type games. I would rather her play a game that I'm 100% aware of what she is experiencing due to me having nearly 400hrs logged.

Third... I work from home and she is in middle school. She only plays with me and when I'm in office. Where the computers are kept. She goes to bed at a decent hour and the only time she is allowed to play is when I'm there with her. I want to monitor the types of lobbies we join to avoid very bad language.

Not that it matters but she loves playing as counselors and makes it her goal to beat the bad guy and escape every game she can. Its a fun and interactive challenge. And as an adult and her parent I'm not going to tell her she can't do it. Cause when I was a kid I grew up on these movies.

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14 minutes ago, ShogunGamerz said:

Thx to all in support of this inquiry. I will without a doubt report back when and if I hear from the powers that be.

A few things I would like to address.

First my shogun video was shot with my ShogunGamerz acct not my daughters DarkShadow. And to be honest the game is played in a funny manner I did no harm to others in that video. And if you watch my other videos you will see that is pretty much the silliest thing I've ever done. Once again different account. She plays on my steamacct shogungamingllc, and I play on shogungamerz.

Second about my daughter playing this game. She lover survival type games. She has played a few games, like dead by daylight, resident evil (a couple of them), call of duty (Zombie mode), and I think state of decay. She is a very witty gamer. She lover survival horror type games. I would rather her play a game that I'm 100% aware of what she is experiencing due to me having nearly 400hrs logged.

Third... I work from home and she is in middle school. She only plays with me and when I'm in office. Where the computers are kept. She goes to bed at a decent hour and the only time she is allowed to play is when I'm there with her. I want to monitor the types of lobbies we join to avoid very bad language.

Not that it matters but she loves playing as counselors and makes it her goal to beat the bad guy and escape every game she can. Its a fun and interactive challenge. And as an adult and her parent I'm not going to tell her she can't do it. Cause when I was a kid I grew up on these movies.

You do you man. No one has the power or right to tell you how to raise your child. I know i played m games as a child and watched horror movies. I had good parents that taught respect and were very involved and turned out just fine. No sideways looks from me.

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3 hours ago, Tattooey said:

Another thing to consider aside from my post above but you think somebody maybe saw this clip of yours & even somebody partaking in that match then decide to report it?

Perhaps this video is the smoking gun...

 

Look closely as I get in the car. My daughter is DarkShadow like I stated previously. She took a backbreaker from Jason and ultimately allowed me to escape by dying. So I do a minor "Chad is a D move" which is an achievement btw and she does nothing and Boom BanStick

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Every parent should raise their kids as they think is best for them. That being said, exposing a child into an online mature environment is just wrong. I've been in Lobby's where older guys are playing with kids that should be older than 9 or 10 and they engage conversations and asking questions to these kids and it just creeps me out. And on the other side it's very hard to find young mature fellas therefore playing in a lobby filled with kids just ruins the experience for me, not because of their age (Because I've seen grown man acting worse than kids in this game) but for their behavior. Most of these kids makes this game way too toxic.

 

 

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1 hour ago, JPops said:

Hmm, I was pretty sure the question was in regard to an account being banned. Didn't see a question asking for parenting guidelines. If you are going to post please keep on topic. 

What comes up when you try to access the game?

To be fair, though; there's really nothing anybody on these forums can do for this fellow except recommend that he email the developers directly about the issue.

I knew as soon as I read the topic title that there was going to be somebody attacking him for letting his kid play this game. I wasn't disappointed. Lol. I played games like this and GTA all the time when I was little and I haven't killed anybody yet!

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2 minutes ago, ShogunGamerz said:

Thx to all in support of this inquiry. I will without a doubt report back when and if I hear from the powers that be.

A few things I would like to address.

First my shogun video was shot with my ShogunGamerz acct not my daughters DarkShadow. And to be honest the game is played in a funny manner I did no harm to others in that video. And if you watch my other videos you will see that is pretty much the silliest thing I've ever done. Once again different account. She plays on my steamacct shogungamingllc, and I play on shogungamerz.

Second about my daughter playing this game. She lover survival type games. She has played a few games, like dead by daylight, resident evil (a couple of them), call of duty (Zombie mode), and I think state of decay. She is a very witty gamer. She lover survival horror type games. I would rather her play a game that I'm 100% aware of what she is experiencing due to me having nearly 400hrs logged.

Third... I work from home and she is in middle school. She only plays with me and when I'm in office. Where the computers are kept. She goes to bed at a decent hour and the only time she is allowed to play is when I'm there with her. I want to monitor the types of lobbies we join to avoid very bad language.

Not that it matters but she loves playing as counselors and makes it her goal to beat the bad guy and escape every game she can. Its a fun and interactive challenge. And as an adult and her parent I'm not going to tell her she can't do it. Cause when I was a kid I grew up on these movies.

I understand your child-rearing approach, because, after all, I was her age when the first F13 came out, yet I still saw it (and a whole bunch of other movies supposedly not fit for my age group), and my parents knew too.  However, since cable TV was the must-have for families back then, there was simply no way to stop my older brother and I from watching like some of the worst shit ever, as we had our own TV's and VCR's.  Times were different, all this technology in its infancy, yet the same issue as today was still unanswered:  What is all this doing to young minds (hell, even old ones)?

It's pure folly to think, if you do have kids, that they're not doing everything -- probably more -- than we did at their age, and that's not even counting what they do behind your back.  I'm always flabbergasted with parents who seem to believe their children have halos and harps;  did these parents not grow up like normal kids?  Because I guarantee you, ain't a kid on this planet who follows every rule, eats his/her veggies, and leads bible studies with his peers, not in today's world.  Thinking back to yesterday's world, I remember all the stuff I did that, if my parents had found out, I would have been in capital-T trouble!  Do you think kids have changed in that regard?

Anyway, raise your kids however you want, it's nobody's business until you make it that way (like you did by posting this in the first place).  You gotta love a society which is more interested in telling others how to run their lives, than their own...

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10 minutes ago, ShogunGamerz said:

Look closely as I get in the car. My daughter is DarkShadow like I stated previously. She took a backbreaker from Jason and ultimately allowed me to escape by dying. So I do a minor "Chad is a D move" which is an achievement btw and she does nothing and Boom BanStick

I seen a dick move but not bannible

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4 hours ago, Über Jason said:

This game is rated "M" for mature, your daughter is 11 years old... This game isn't designed for children at all... Only for people aged 17 years old and older should play the game.

http://www.esrb.org/ratings/search.aspx?from=home&titleOrPublisher=Friday the 13th

Intense Violence, Blood and Gore, Suggestive Themes (SEX?), Strong Language.

 

Is it a children account? Maybe, it's the reason she got banned.

I simply don't understand why parents let them play titles like Grand Theft Auto, Friday the 13th: The Game, Saint's Row ; those games aren't suited for them!

As a matter of fact, I agree with the ban. Why isn't she playing Splatoon 2 instead?

If she's mature enough to play it, then there should be no problem. The ESRB cannot tell you what your children can and can't play. You also can't tell anyone how to raise their child.

Besides, we all know you looked at things you weren't supposed when you were a kid. I played Mortal Kombat at eight and looked at porn when I was in the sixth grade. An 11 year old playing F13 should be more than fine, unless they prove themsleves to be immature jerks (Which thankfully is not the case here)..

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Sorry, but all of you are being really stupid. We can't judge how parents teach his sons. And, if you have a problem with kids talking in an online game MUTE THEM! There is an option, to mute people. don't be an asshole.

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12 minutes ago, The Phanthom Nico said:

Sorry, but all of you are being really stupid. We can't judge how parents teach his sons. And, if you have a problem with kids talking in an online game MUTE THEM! There is an option, to mute people. don't be an asshole.

I know. That's a Society problem. And after we're questionning ourselves why kids today have coarse language, do violent things unexpected? But parents today, are tolerants on extreme violence but not on hardcore sex. Where's the limit? That's why the world goes wrong...

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I don't have kids, but here is a true story regarding a friend of mine who also plays this game.  He plays quite often, as he also backed the game.  He is 18, and his family watches him play the game all the time, including a 10 year old nephew who just luvs Jason.  One day, his nephew found a hatchet in their garage and started chasing everyone around the house saying, "I'm Jason, I'm Jason...".

Children are not capable of knowing what is right or wrong when they see things like horror movies, or games based on them.  If his uncle was not around, and it was only young children that his nephew was chasing, things could have ended up dramatically different.  No matter how well you parent your children, children do not process this type of information in the same way that adults do, and don't fully understand that this type of play acting could lead to real death.

The best parents, with the best intentions, make this mistake each and every day.  Before subjecting any child to this type of stimulation, I suggest that you at least research the pshycology behind it, so that you make an intelligent and informed decision.

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10 minutes ago, SnakeSound222 said:

If she's mature enough to play it, then there should be no problem. The ESRB cannot tell you what your children can and can't play. You also can't tell anyone how to raise their child.

Besides, we all know you looked at things you weren't supposed when you were a kid. I played Mortal Kombat at eight and looked at porn when I was in the sixth grade. An 11 year old playing F13 should be more than fine, unless they prove themsleves to be immature jerks (Which thankfully is not the case here)..

The problem is not what you did or didn't do, is that you did it know that you were not suppose to. I did bunch of "Mature" stuff myself but I knew that If I'd pop a cigarette right in front of my mother when I was 13 she would've take it and shoveled it up my A$$.

 You said you watched porn in 6th grade but I'm pretty sure your Parent were not in that same room reading while you were watching it.

Again, every parent should raise their kids as they want but I'm not a fan to open up the Gates of the Mature world just yet. As a video game fan and father of two I want my kids to play Super Mario and stuff like that, sports game and then giving them stuff little by little, as they grow older they will probably Juke me and play GTA 8 on my PS6. But I cant allow them to rub it in my face.

The question you should ask yourself is if you enjoy as a grown man playing a Mature Online Game with Kids... 

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This game is M rated so it makes me feel uncomfortable to play along with underage gamers. When I hear a child on the mic, I simply leave the lobby and find a new game. 

Hopefully Gun can fix the perma-ban. 

As for what media a parent allows their child to be exposed to, I think that's up to the parent. 

Most of the kids that I have heard online are playing without adult supervision. Those little rascals! 

1 minute ago, Kaelum said:

I don't have kids, but here is a true story regarding a friend of mine who also plays this game.  He plays quite often, as he also backed the game.  He is in his 18, and his family watches him play the game all the time, including a 10 year old nephew who just luvs Jason.  One day, his nephew found a hatchet in their garage and started chasing everyone around the house saying, "I'm Jason, I'm Jason...".

Children are not capable of knowing what is right or wrong when they see things like horror movies, or games based on them.  If his uncle was not around, and it was only young children that his nephew was chasing, things could have ended up dramatically different.  No matter how well you parent your children, children do not process this type of information in the same way that adults do, and don't fully understand that this type of play acting could lead to real death.

The best parents, with the best intentions, make this mistake each and every day.  Before subjecting any child to this type of stimulation, I suggest that you at least research the pshycology behind it, so that you make an intelligent and informed decision.

You can't make a blanket statement like this. Obviously that kid needs some special supervision. Everyone I knew growing up made it out of childhood without imitating any violent behaviour. That kid needs extra attention obviously. Not meaning any insult to the kid in question, but wow. 

 

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LOL. The comments on this is beyond hilarious.  

I have an issue with parents buying their kids M-Rated games if they don't even bother to look at what the hell is IN the game. In MY OPINION you are not a responsible parent if you allow your child to play a game like GTA before a maturity age is hit. I will call anyone out for it if I see it too.

This whole "you can't tell a parent how to raise their kid" is fucking ridiculous. "Oh hoo - hoo let me just raise a serial killer or a drug over-lord and you can't say shit to me about it!" That would be nonsense! (The phrase was used as an example of how retarded that sounds, not specifically applying to this thread.)

Young children's minds are very susceptible to almost anything, the environment they are in influences and steadily alters their minds. What they indulge themselves into will begin to create and shape them. Just be wary of what you allow your kids to do and the environment you allow them to be in.

If you are a parent who doesn't give a rat's ass, then I don't think you're fit for parenting. This is why a lot of people are growing up as uncivilized, unkempt, even cringe worthy individuals, for the lack of a better word. 

As for this game specifically, if the girl is 11 years old, I don't see an issue with her playing the game if she is monitored. (I still personally would prefer if she was older, but if she's mature enough then hey - what can I say.) The game is recommended for people ages 17+, but it doesn't mean someone a little younger "shouldn't" be playing it per say. 

But any parent in any given situation should be aware of what they are ALLOWING their child to do and be prepared to suffer any consequences from it, including disrespectful remarks they pick up on, frowned upon behaviors, asking questions to their parents about certain topics you might not want to answer... 

When buying their child any M-Rated online game, they should definitely be aware that their kid WILL be playing with older people for sure. There will be adult conversations, there will be swearing, there will be violence - a rather upsetting environment for someone who is in their early stages of life.

This goes without saying - but again this is MY opinion so don't shit on me for it.

 

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4 minutes ago, JohnnyKapow said:

This game is M rated so it makes me feel uncomfortable to play along with underage gamers. When I hear a child on the mic, I simply leave the lobby and find a new game. 

Hopefully Gun can fix the perma-ban. 

As for what media a parent allows their child to be exposed to, I think that's up to the parent. 

Most of the kids that I have heard online are playing without adult supervision. Those little rascals! 

You can't make a blanket statement like this. Obviously that kid needs some special supervision. Everyone I knew growing up made it out of childhood without imitating any violent behaviour. That kid needs extra attention obviously. Not meaning any insult to the kid in question, but wow. 

 

That's my point. Probably everybody in this forum did stuff they were not supposed to when we were kids, but it was not encouraged by most of our parents. 

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4 hours ago, ShogunGamerz said:

My 11yr old daughter has been banned from F13.

Good, kids shouldn't be playing this game anyway.

 

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12 minutes ago, mojitodominic said:

The question you should ask yourself is if you enjoy as a grown man playing a Mature Online Game with Kids... 

I really don't care who I play with, as long as they aren't jerks (not counting Jason, he's supposed to be a jerk, it's his job). 

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3 minutes ago, BetsyPalmer said:

This whole "you can't tell a parent how to raise their kid" is fucking ridiculous. "Oh hoo - hoo let me just raise a serial killer or a drug over-lord and you can't say shit to me about it!" That would be nonsense! (The phrase was used as an example of how retarded that sounds, not specifically applying to this thread.)

 

What video game did Ted Bundy play that turned him into a serial killer? How about drug lord Pablo Escobar? What was his high score in the arcade?

If your kid plays a game, listens to a song, watches a movie, or reads a book then does something bad and it is blamed on the media they were taking in, then there was something wrong with the kid from the start.

When John Lennon was killed by Mark David Chapman, did they ban anyone of any age from reading Catcher in the Rye? 

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I have an 11 yr old daughter who plays this game with me and I occasionally let my 7 yr old daughter play it as well. I must be Satan? 

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3 minutes ago, JohnnyKapow said:

What video game did Ted Bundy play that turned him into a serial killer? How about drug lord Pablo Escobar? What was his high score in the arcade?

If your kid plays a game, listens to a song, watches a movie, or reads a book then does something bad and it is blamed on the media they were taking in, then there was something wrong with the kid from the start.

When John Lennon was killed by Mark David Chapman, did they ban anyone of any age from reading Catcher in the Rye? 

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11 minutes ago, BetsyPalmer said:

(The phrase was used as an example of how retarded that sounds, not specifically applying to this thread.)

EDIT: You should pay attention to the context surrounding whatever you're reading instead of venturing into someone's argument half-assedly. If a child hears the phrase "Fuck this shit!" for the first time off of a song and then repeats the phrase, who/what is at fault there? 

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4 minutes ago, BetsyPalmer said:

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And it was a good point to which I expanded on, that's why I quoted it. I was citing examples of how people can't blame any type of media for the deficiencies of certain other humans. I wasn't shitting on your opinions. 

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5 minutes ago, JohnnyKapow said:

And it was a good point to which I expanded on, that's why I quoted it. I was citing examples of how people can't blame any type of media for the deficiencies of certain other humans. I wasn't shitting on your opinions. 

Then who/what IS to blame? The tooth fairy?! I'm not saying to solely blame everything your child learns on the media, but if they are spending a whole lot of time on it, then you should be aware that they are learning things you might not want them to learn until later in life.

PEOPLE are to blame. The media was created by PEOPLE and is used and updated constantly by PEOPLE. 

EDIT: If you allow you kids to listen to vulgar music or watch graphical movies/shows or play morbid video games, then just know what you are allowing them to watch and take in, and know you are at fault if you catch them cursing or saying suggestive phrases.

 

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Easy solution to playing with folks online, if my child was playing i wouldn't allow them to use the mic and mute other players. Bam problem solved. The child playing the game is up to the parent and the parameters set by said parent. No one else. Why do people feel they have the right to shit on someone for how they raise their children? It is of no concern to anyone. I watched plenty of horror movies with my parents when i was young. If we went to blockbuster back in the day i didn't head to the disney section, i went straight for the horror movies. Exorcist, a nightmare on elm street, friday the 13th, halloween, etc.....still haven't killed anyone and have respect for people and their individual rights. Outsiders and government have no right to raise your child, you do. Point blank. It is up to the parent to teach their children what is right and wrong, where the line of hollywood make believe and reality lie, and if child can't grasp that then you adjust accordingly. Quite simple. Same goes for music. When i was 9 to 10 i wasnt wanting kids bop or radio disney, i was listening to korn, pantera, metallica, slayer, the doors, ozzy and etc. Does that mean my parents were horrible? Seeing how i didnt walk around cussing folks out, had respext for others and my elders, never killed anyone etc? It is all in how you handle your child. Games don't make psychopaths, no oversight or direction/discipline does that.

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13 minutes ago, BetsyPalmer said:

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EDIT: You should pay attention to the context surrounding whatever you're reading instead of venturing into someone's argument half-assedly. If a child hears the phrase "Fuck this shit!" for the first time off of a song and then repeats the phrase, who/what is at fault there? 

 

4 minutes ago, BetsyPalmer said:

Then who/what IS to blame? The tooth fairy?! I'm not saying to solely blame everything your child learns on the media, but if they are spending a whole lot of time on it, then you should be aware that they are learning things you might not want them to learn until later in life.

PEOPLE are to blame. The media was created by PEOPLE and is used and updated constantly by PEOPLE.

 

If a child repeats a swear word then it is up to the parent to PARENT them and GUIDE them and teach them that what they heard was not to be used by children. Like it is the parent's job to parent and guide their child in the use and enjoyment of all media. Hence the term Parental Guidance. 

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35 minutes ago, Über Jason said:

I know. That's a Society problem. And after we're questionning ourselves why kids today have coarse language, do violent things unexpected? But parents today, are tolerants on extreme violence but not on hardcore sex. Where's the limit? That's why the world goes wrong...

just curious... do you have kids? 

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