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5 minutes ago, Bloody Murder said:

Both of my kids play M rated games all the time and they have given us a list of things they don't feel they are ready to see and we research each game fully and talk to them about what's in it then we sit down and play the game before hand and continue playing with them. You can't hide your kids from the world but you can educate them and counsel them about the things they will inevitably be exposed to. We also don't allow trolling in our house or inappropriate  language. 

All out of likes. Man I remember being a kid and playing the resident evil games, manhunt, grand theft auto 3 etc. My parents knew and there was an expectation that i didnt walk around living in a skewed universe trying to live out what was in those game. Turned out just fine. Don't steal cars, wrap peoples head in plastic bags beating them, own guns but don't walk down the street opening fire on folks. Have respect for fellow man and their rights. People and censorship are getting out of hand with trying to tell someone how to raise their children.

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51 minutes ago, ShogunGamerz said:

Hello Everyone,

I have a major issue. My 11yr old daughter has been banned from F13. We have two computers that sit in the exact same room. We both play with each other pretty much on a daily bases. My account is fine... ShogunGamerz. Her account is perm banned ShogunGamingLLC in-game known as DarkShadow. 1) I record almost every single one of our matches and upload them to youtube. Both her and I conduct ourselves in a proper manner.  2) We both have not violated any of the TOS, or Code of Conduct. The only thing we are guilty of is occasionally leaving a match early when others are trolling or helping jason kill others.

I believe we are owed an explanation of the ban and with proper proof. She's 11 years old and I bought this game for her on her birthday a couple months back. I'm not trying to play a sympathy card, but since she woke up this morning with a ban she has been in nothing but a tearful mess. She keeps asking me what she done. She doesn't troll, doesn't use inappropriate language or behavior, she doesn't use glitches or exploits.

3) I'm 100% certain that she has played no different than her friends and I have played for quite sometime. I have almost 400 hours logged since release. And I have quite a few terabytes of video footage of us playing. It's an injustice really. I'm not going to scream refund or any of those words if I'm provided with a legit reason. But she's done nothing wrong I'm 110% certain of that.

Please contact me with an explanation of what she has done. Once again her account is ShogunGamingLLC and her in game name is DarkShadow.

You can contact me I guess on here via PM, or email me at shogungamingllc@gmail.com

Thank you for your time. Please do not delete this in an attempt to hide my inquiry.

Sincerely,

Derrick W. 

1) Almost? Does your daughter play the game when you are not supervising?

2) Are you sure? Has your daughter been playing matches outside your supervision?

3) You'd be surprised what kids do when the parent isn't there.

Look, I'm not saying you're not telling the truth. I'm not saying that it is justified or unjustified. I will say this...perm-ban is not something that happens often despite the huge number of trolls and glitchers playing the game. If you got perm-banned from the game, you did something that violated the TOS or CoC. More importantly, someone else had evidence to prove it in the eyes of the person reviewing the complaint. Once again, not saying it is legit and your daughter wasn't set up, but someone had compelling evidence for them to take action. Ask GUN media as suggested earlier but be advised kids being kids, playing when an adult is NOT there, can be drastically different that when they have the authority figure observing them.<_<

 

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11 minutes ago, Über Jason said:

I have no problem with a kid playing an "M" rated game offline. it's their own business... But online, that's the problem. When I buy an "M" rated game, it's not fun to interact with kids when it's not supposed to... I have a problem playing an "M" rated game online with kids, when a game that's isn't for them. With Splatoon 2 or Minecraft, it's a different story...  

Again, it is not up to you or the ESRB to decide what someone else's child can play, watch, or listen to. You are trying to project "what's fun" for you onto other people. I don't like playing with people that don't use their mics. I don't like playing with asshole adults who try to block you into a room, or run you over with a car. I don't like playing with people who have shitty connections. So, should we ban all of these people because I don't like it? Of course not. And they shouldn't ban an account who has not committed any of the specific bannable offenses., just because you don't like it.

The ESRB rating is a suggestion and guideline. That ratings system is not law, and neither is your moral compass, or whether or not you have a problem with playing an "M" game online with kids. I hate to break it to you, but the universe does not revolve around you.

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3 minutes ago, Rexfellis said:

The ESRB rating is a suggestion and guideline. That ratings system is not law, and neither is your moral compass, or whether or not you have a problem with playing an "M" game online with kids. I hate to break it to you, but the universe does not orbit around you.

Yeah, but what's the purpose of the ERSB rating, if parents doesn't follow them? it's my right to play an "M" rated game and not expecting kids. It's the same reasoning as a kid interacting with adults in a porn chat. Will you agree with that?

The problem is that the society has more tolerance with violence than sex,,, Adult things are adult things : whenever it's extreme violence or sex...  

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1 minute ago, Über Jason said:

Yeah, but what's the purpose of the ERSB rating, if parents doesn't follow them? it's my right to play an "M" rated game and not expecting kids. It's the same reasoning as a kid interacting with adults in a porn chat. Will you agree with that?

The problem is that the society has more tolerance with violence than sex,,, Adult things are adult things : whenever it's extreme violence or sex...  

The purpose of the system is to educate adults about the content so we can then decide if it's appropriate for our children and every single parent has their own opinions on what is fine for their kids and as long as its not anything abusive it's none of our business as to how someone else is raising their children. If you don't like playing with kids find a group of adults only or I don't know use that mute button thing that is there for everyone to use. 

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8 minutes ago, Über Jason said:

Yeah, but what's the purpose of the ERSB rating, if parents doesn't follow them? it's my right to play an "M" rated game and not expecting kids. It's the same reasoning as a kid interacting with adults in a porn chat. Will you agree with that?

The problem is that the society has more tolerance with violence than sex,,, Adult things are adult things : whenever it's extreme violence or sex...  

Again it is up to the parent. Not an agency. Not some other person. Certainly not a government. If i say my daughter can play the last of us, friday the 13th, manhunt, etc, who has the right to trump my authority? Did someone else bring them into this world? Do other people pay her way? No they don't my child is mine to raise with my wife. Without anyone else's interference.

@Bloody Murder exactly.

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16 minutes ago, Über Jason said:

Yeah, but what's the purpose of the ERSB rating, if parents doesn't follow them? it's my right to play an "M" rated game and not expecting kids. It's the same reasoning as a kid interacting with adults in a porn chat. Will you agree with that?

The problem is that the society has more tolerance with violence than sex,,, Adult things are adult things : whenever it's extreme violence or sex...  

Dude your entitled to play game just as much as the children's whose parents consent. Unfortunately you cannot force people to conform to your moral beliefs regardless of how right you may be. That's the world we live in. The ERSB ratings are nothing more then a guideline for people to be informed on what type of game they are purchasing.

No one is arguing either with why you deplore playing with children. Sure enough most people would agree with you but none the less we have no right to try & force those parents to ban their kids from playing these video games. Whether or not that makes them bad parents is irrelevant.

Xbox has no limitations nor is there any law that prevents minors from playing adult video games. That is completely up to the parents. I understand your argument is with the parents consenting & not the actual child but key thing to remember is not everyone will see eye to eye on issues of what's morally right or immoral, ethical or unethical.

These games even tho they are M rated they are mass marketed to children over adults considering they are the number 1 consumers of these adult rated games. You must understand these kids did not grow up during the time you & I were children. Things have changed. What's social acceptable is completely different then when we grew up. Most parents prefer their kids playing M rated games then going outdoors & getting into trouble. The time we live in today proves adults and children have been desensitized to violence in our culture and the way we react to it.

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The real answer is Puritanism : Extreme Violence it's okay... But porn, is unacceptable... They are the same in my point of view. Americans are always like : "it's okay to expose our kids to extreme violence, but porn is outrageous!". What a bizarre way of thinking! Both shouldn't be exposed to children!

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32 minutes ago, Tattooey said:

Another thing to consider aside from my post above but you think somebody maybe saw this clip of yours & even somebody partaking in that match then decide to report it?

Perhaps this video is the smoking gun...

 

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1 hour ago, Über Jason said:

This game is rated "M" for mature, your daughter is 11 years old... This game isn't designed for children at all... Only for people aged 17 years old and older should play the game.

http://www.esrb.org/ratings/search.aspx?from=home&titleOrPublisher=Friday the 13th

Intense Violence, Blood and Gore, Suggestive Themes (SEX?), Strong Language.

 

Is it a children account? Maybe, it's the reason she got banned.

I simply don't understand why parents let them play titles like Grand Theft Auto, Friday the 13th: The Game, Saint's Row ; those games aren't suited for them!

As a matter of fact, I agree with the ban. Why isn't she playing Splatoon 2 instead?

I agree with this. I don't have any kids, but I sure as heck wouldn't let them play this game if I did...... 

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3 minutes ago, Über Jason said:

The real answer is Puritanism : Extreme Violence it's okay... But porn, is unacceptable... They are the same in my point of view. Americans are always like it's okay to expose kids to extreme violence, but porn is outrageous! What a bizarre thinking... Both should'nt be exposed to children!

You are right. I agree with you but the majority here disagree for various reasons.

Times have changed. Elvis Presley was kicked off radio stations for simply shaking his hips while dancing during a tv show performance. People viewed that as inappropriate behavior. Every single person reading this would agree that today things are much more different then when we grew up considering what's acceptable to unacceptable.

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9 minutes ago, Tattooey said:

Dude your entitled to play game just as much as the children's whose parents consent. Unfortunately you cannot force people to conform to your moral beliefs regardless of how right you may be. That's the world we live in. The ERSB ratings are nothing more then a guideline for people to be informed on what type of game they are purchasing.

No one is arguing either with why you deplore playing with children. Sure enough most people would agree with you but none the less we have no right to try & force those parents to ban their kids from playing these video games. Whether or not that makes them bad parents is irrelevant.

Xbox has no limitations nor is there any law that prevents minors from playing adult video games. That is completely up to the parents. I understand your argument is with the parents consenting & not the actual child but key thing to remember is not everyone will see eye to eye on issues of what's morally right or immoral, ethical or unethical.

These games even tho they are M rated they are mass marketed to children over adults considering they are the number 1 consumers of these adult rated games. You must understand these kids did not grow up during the time you & I were children. Things have changed. What's social acceptable is completely different then when we grew up. Most parents prefer their kids playing M rated games then going outdoors & getting into trouble. The time we live in today proves adults and children have been desensitized to violence in our culture and the way we react to it.

I prefer my child being outside before playing any game or sitting in front of any tv. My point is no one has the right to tell someone how to raise their children period.

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Buy a new copy.

Its what the most hardcore of hardcore trolls do when they really wanna show the pieces of crap they are. They just go and buy another account to continue the nonsense. Left 4 Dead 2 is a good example of that. They introduced the block feature to prevent trolls from joining official dedicated servers of those who blocked them. Yet they would also have the game on sale for 5 dollars every month or so. So who cares, just buy more copies and be dumb some more. Also unofficial servers nullify the block feature.

The kids will be extra difficult to deal with when singleplayer hits and any nudity is shown with the characters if that happens.

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Half the community would be banned if they banned children.  I could care less if they would just shut up and play.  I mute often !

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Just now, zDerezzed said:

I think we got a little off topic fellas. 

Yeah we did when folks popped in roasting someone for how they raise their child. Completely uncalled for. But to get back on topic. Email gunmedia. Best bet.

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5 minutes ago, jameson87 said:

Yeah we did when folks popped in roasting someone for how they raise their child. Completely uncalled for. But to get back on topic. Email gunmedia. Best bet.

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Hmm, I was pretty sure the question was in regard to an account being banned. Didn't see a question asking for parenting guidelines. If you are going to post please keep on topic. 

What comes up when you try to access the game?

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4 minutes ago, JPops said:

Hmm, I was pretty sure the question was in regard to an account being banned. Didn't see a question asking for parenting guidelines. If you are going to post please keep on topic. 

What comes up when you try to access the game?

Thank you @JPops

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1 hour ago, Rexfellis said:

It is none of your business how a parent raises their child. Here is the excerpt about the ratings. 

The ESRB's beliefs are not a hard and fast rule of how mature a child may or may not be. Neither are your personal moral compass or problems with "salty kids online".

 

There you go. Raise your children as you see fit, and let this person raise theirs' as they see fit. Easy-peasy.

I'm tired of asshole adults online, can we ban them too? I've seen plenty of videos with grown ass people doing the exact thing you are blaming children for.  I'm a grown man with a family, and I believe this person has a right to expose their children to whatever media they feel said children are mature enough for. It's not up to some faceless government entity, or judgmental people online to decide this. 

You're a very smart person, we need more people like you around. 

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I expected more out of a troll video.  Escaping alone with the battery with the police already called and a battery that will end up on the beach is pretty tame.

Anyway, I don't like playing M rated games with 11 year olds personally.  That said, When I was 9, I had memorized the entire script of Nightmare on Elm Street 3 and could re-enact the entire movie, I had watched it so many times.  The only part I wasn't allowed to watch was when the nurse took her top off.

 

 

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2 hours ago, Über Jason said:

I have no problem with a kid playing an "M" rated game offline. it's their own business... But online, that's the problem. When I buy an "M" rated game, it's not fun to interact with kids when it's not supposed to... I have a problem playing an "M" rated game online with kids, when a game that's isn't suited for them. With Splatoon 2 or Minecraft, it's a different story...  

be honest. you done care about what the kids are exposed to... you just think they're annoying and don't wanna deal with it. 

i mean... i get it... and it's totally within your right, but don't pretend it's some moral stand out of concern for the precious kids. 

not trying to be a huge dick. i let my nine year old play this. he's not allowed to use a mic and all players are muted unless he knows them. is it violent? yes. has he been raised to know that it's fake? absolutely. do i have concerns about him being exposed to this stuff? nota one. 

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*Slinks in silently, wondering what is going on with all the fuss.* 

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*Quietly sits and listens cause she kind of loves the juicy drama.* 

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