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  1. To @ShiftySamurai @mattshotcha(Which by the way, I want to say congratulations on your position and welcome the forums! Wishing you the best for your work and dedication here.) A little surprised no one caught on to this yet, unless someone did and there is a thread covering this issue, then forgive me, disregard this thread and I'll direct this topic to the appropriate place it needs be. Since we were able to get Pamela's voice back, I figure this issue was worth mentioning and needed attention. I know Thom Mathews played a huge role behind the scenes when it came to getting his character into the game and I've got to say, it does feel a bit gloomy not hearing his voice that much often aside from "Come on maggot head!", "Come on chicken shit!" etc. I don't know if this applies the same for Xbox or PC players, but as a PS4 user experiencing this, I can't remember the exact patch/update that occurred for this to happen, but I'm pretty sure they've been absent since 2017. I don't remember every single dialogue Tommy said, but these are the best I can recall going by memory and game play videos from last year. Current record of missing dialogues after Tommy's cut scene intro so far: "Oh god! What am I going to do?" "Jason is alive, I dug up his body. He's even more powerful now." "Jason's alive. He killed my friend. Now he's coming for me." Tommy while in Jason's kill animation: "He's killing me!" is replaced by Chad's voice. If anybody else can remember any other lines or notice other dialogue issues regarding Tommy besides the intro, feel free to refresh my memory in this thread and I'll gladly add it to the list.
  2. I'm not sure if there will ever be any kind balance patch to revamp this game. You'd think there already be an update that consist of such changes that would solve the group attack issue, but there isn't. Frankly as a result, it's looking more unlikely and probably too late as well. The culprits already took hostage of this game and at this point, they've gain enough experience to counter any past, present and future Jason buff. The game is operated by multiple ventriloquists(troll players). They're the ones who gets to decide the curtain call and fate of camp counselors. Jason is merely the muppet. That's what comes to mind every time I see a game end early or if Jason is drifting away from the others. It's seriously sad we're going from 2017 heading near towards the end 2018, STILL both game and immersion breaking. I appreciate Gun Media for making this game happen and don't doubt it's a huge success, but they're just victims due to the outsiders. I guess when you're a new indie company, hitting some bumpy roads is to be expected I guess. Regardless, I can't look at it as a fun game to go back to anymore. Right now, I just look at it as a great game taken under siege, but still hoping it'll influence one of the following: 1. The settlement can arrive sooner and some type of content can revamp this game. 2. It becomes a successful enough predecessor to open a gateway for big companies to green light Gun Media for a sequel or another slasher title. A specific balance update don't mean shit to me if the core of the game will continue to be simplistic years to come. Most new players and veterans are probably fine with that now, but a change is in desperate need eventually at some point.
  3. Liquid Swordsman

    I'm waiting for new patches.

    No. YOU assumed Grendel/Uber would create some complications if it was included before the engine update. Yes, I understand from the comment you posted saying "ALL parts of the game had to be touched" was in reference to what Shifty stated and him narrowing it down, but there's a good possibility that it doesn't mean Grendel/Uber would be much of an issue it came first, however, there's NO source referencing any Gun Media member with an explanation to state otherwise(which I've asked you to link backing up your claims and you never did) and also considering the fact Part 4/Jarvis house and Roy/Pinehurst didn't develop the type issues you've brought up, my reasoning bringing this up is strictly base on those two factors there. Just to note, I'm not trying to say everything you're stating is wrong or attempting to prove you are regarding how the company operates on the game in the past. You're free to believe what you like, but I would think if if you're going to make any attempt to try and prove anything I've said is invalid, you would have some shred up evidence to back up the information you've provided. You speaking as if you know what is actually going on behind the scenes at Gun Media HQ doesn't make most of your assumptions any more credible. Especially when you're trying to use that to debunk my statement regarding the community feedback ideas influencing the company's decision making. Never did I say my opinion of that was valid or more factual than anything you've said. There's a reason why I said I'd dismiss this if someone from Gun Media wants to say this is certainly not the case in my earlier post. However, I still feel this is a popular opinion most can get behind because the majority of us are aware that Gun Media does indeed listen to everything they can, so I certainly don't see the harm on assuming a huge amount of negative feedback played a role in this and influenced a business decision. Speaking of which, how difficult is it for you to really understand the big difference between "community feedback" and "telling those how to run their the company." Again, another reason why you continue to imagine yourself in the shoes of a Gun Media employee and assuming everything you know that's happening behind closed doors. I never said I felt that certain individuals should lecture more on what they should do with their company at the time when content was in the current state of development. I said it would've been better if a more rational group within the community could present more ideas that could heavily influence those that work in the company and motivate them more to work on ideas that would've likely been in the list of content labeled next to top priority. Honestly, if they were concerned of encountering these types of ideas like and they perceived that as you claim "telling them how to run their business". Do you think we would have Suggestions/Feedback section in the first place? Besides the time were developers working on Victoria or Roy's new color of coveralls to be added. How else did you think that was possible? It came from a long lasting thread of dedicated fans campaigning for an idea that influence the creators decision making.
  4. Liquid Swordsman

    I'm waiting for new patches.

    Thanks for that insightful information captain obvious! Still doesn't mean I'm not allowed to have an opinion on what took place. Can you reiterate any of this from a developer or Gun Media member confirming this related to Uber/Grendel and the engine upgrade? Unless there was something different about the Jason X DLC we don't know about and they have probably yet to explain, I don't see how including Uber and the Grendel map first before the engine upgrade would be much of an issue. This didn't seem to be the same situation with a similar concern you're explaining heading into the release of Part 4 Jason/Jarvis Map and Roy/Pinehurst beforehand. There is also no mention of anybody from Gun Media claiming they had concerns of the engine upgrade being possibly counted as new content either. I highly doubt that would be the case as well, since it's not adding any new derivative work of the licensed property. It's only dealing with the performance of the game to make it run properly on each system. You know it obviously shouldn't count as new content either when the dedicated servers were released right in the midst of the lawsuit. And so far, I don't think Gun Media got some scary letter from a lawyer as far as we know. If they knew and were confident the release of dedicated servers would not be affected from certain changes of the lawsuit, what makes you think they what would get that same impression in regards to the engine upgrade? You're probably right that console players would've very well freaked out if the dedicated servers were pushed back way later than it's intended release date. Still, at the rate and work all the work they've done, would it really matter? Would the outrage be much different from the one we saw after hearing the news of content ending? My point is, no one will ever be satisfied. There's always going to be that same group of players giving that same type of feedback. I'm sure you've been around here long enough to know that. Also, when I mentioned the examples for new content being another hero character, an alternative multiplayer mode and Pamela, May 24 2018 through June 11 2018 was not the appropriate timeline I was referring going through my mind. I am talking way before that. An appropriate time where they had the capability to do so. I'm not saying every single one of those content HAVE to be included, they're just examples I've used in terms of quality content that should've been best suited as top priority that'll benefit the game way more than the likes of things like clothing packs or dance emotes when it was getting close towards the deadline of the lawsuit. However, this was heavily lacking. How so? There were more backlash comments towards some of the game creators over bugs and less comments of players being a bit more rational to think about what could benefit the game to make it more fun going into the future. Now granted, long ago, Wes, posted a thread about this saying it would take a lot of time and money, due to reworking the game and securing likeness of such characters to get it done, but did he say it was impossible? No. You know would've made it a good strong possibility though? Better influence from the community by having more players campaigning for such said ideas. I'm not sure why you and a few others here think this is the same thing as telling them how to or should run their company. I'm not blaming Gun Media and to retract what I mentioned yesterday, I'm not partially, but fully blaming on the terrible feedback that created bad influence for the creators of the game. Unless some one from Gun Media wants to say this is certainly not the case, then I'll be happy to be dismiss this reason. Until then, this is the belief I will continue to stand by.
  5. Liquid Swordsman

    I'm waiting for new patches.

    @VoorheesAJollyGoodFellow The patches you require is nothing worth being impatient about. The game is still playable. Future content is ceased and you're still complaining about small things. Personally, I would have been perfectly fine waiting for the engine upgrade and dedicated servers if it meant we were getting other content first. To be honest with you, I never really wanted or cared about Uber/Grendel, but I still understand the frustration of others who wanted them considering the inevitable changes of the lawsuit deadline that would have affected the game. A Grendel/Uber DLC would've still been better than an engine upgrade that made the game completely unstable for months and only to find out Uber/Grendel is no longer happening. It is Gun Media's decision, an unfortunate one to bear with and even though it's one of the few times I respectively disagree with them on this choice, I'm partially blaming half of the community here who were being so bitter. Which is why I agree with you that most of the negative feedback really likely played a huge role in this. If we were ever getting anything reserved for last piece of content, a more sensible thing to do would've scrapped anything map, clothing or emote related and just put all their focus on something like new heroes(Tina, Alice, Reggie etc) or an alternative multiplayer mode with a playable Pamela. Something like that would have been more beneficial to the game and expand it's replay value in the long term. Then MAYBE after the lawsuit and settlement between Victor/Horror Inc, I would imagine anything like the low priority content, IMO,(maps, clothing pack, emotes and an almost finish Grendel/Uber) wouldn't really be that difficult to add since it doesn't seem to cost a lot. At that rate, not only would we have dedicated servers, but also a game with new additional fun mechanics to complete that. The sad thing is though, most of the community here never really wanted to see that big part of the picture and not bother to go that route on campaigning for some of these ideas the multiplayer could be in dire need of. It's their extreme negativity, impatience and emotions of the game that got the best them. And for that, it came with a heavy price.
  6. Liquid Swordsman

    do you think Last Year: the Nightmare will kill F13?

    I don't know about last year, but this year has been the quite the nightmare for sure. Except Freddy hasn't shown up yet and probably doesn't want to get involve with the bloody fight going on between Jason and Michael right now.
  7. Liquid Swordsman

    Horror Inc Files Appeal

    Even those changes arrived by then, so...what? What then? It's still not content, so it'll be nothing new. Look, I hate to sound like that debbie downer person, but let's be realistic, assuming Black Tower Studios work methods aren't much different from illfonic, you're looking at a possible waiting period of the usual every 4-5 months/or an eternity for this magical patch you guys are seeking to turn into something fun. It's the patience and wear from the players you have to consider. Factoring all that in, it's a boring ass hope to lean on to. Especially judging by the history. The game is balance when it wants to be. It's just you have to go through lobbies like a slot of machine to get the jackpot. Maybe I don't play enough asymmetrical games to get it. I feel the same about DBD. I'm not saying content is always the pinnacle and savior of every game and that this game can't be better.(Although, at the same time, I wouldn't possibly rule it out. Part of me can potentially see a predecessor years from now once Victor and Sean put their issues to bed.) The game is not dead. How should I say.... the best way for me to put it is that it's a great movie/TV series left off with a permanent cliffhanger because the network canceled it. It's bullshit. Telling everyone to just enjoy for what is now is like saying go rewatch the old episodes over and over again. It's not the point. It won't be much of a difference maker in the long run. Fans like to watch how things evolve. They also wanted DLC because it was something different and it was able to hold them over with patience while the important issues were being looked over. At least they didn't halt the fixes and we knew they were NEVER going to. This wasn't the case with content. Most of us kept pushing for the devs to put out more content because we knew eventually there was going to be a time where they could no long afford to create anymore more content and that they would start their next project more soon than we would have thought. This is a similar reason to those who most wanted the upcoming DLC never cared about the fucking engine upgrade over Uber/Grendel in the first place. That's why some times I never understood most of the constant bitching about how content was always a huge priority over bugs/balance changes etc. Especially from a lot of Jason mains. Yes, I get how extremely annoying they were and how it needed urgent attention, but it's like most users never had a dam off switch to use about the same topic instead of just relaxing for a little while and enjoying some of the content they provided while waiting. Especially some of those same users here who were against the idea of Armani's suggestion for Reggie and had nothing better to do than to antagonize his thread along with the others. Although, with their hostility aside, I agree with them on a couple of their views regarding pointless content like the costumes and emote dancing. Stuff that should've never really been even top priority. It wasn't just about Reggie being some fan favorite or how he's superior. You didn't have to be a fan of the character and yes, I get the fact given his age in the movie, it creates some obstacles, but you still you could've just rolled with it, pitch some ideas to the devs that could've potentially made him into a fun mechanic similar to Tommy Jarvis. And also, make to where he "doesn't have to be killed" as I've repeatedly suggested a few times. There were even similar ideas shown in the Muffin thread and way before that thread was even created. Which I can't believe and more surprised to see it was received more well than Reggie. Not me being salty nor do I have anything against Muffin, but the ideas were presented in that thread shared almost a couple of similar visions I had in the Reggie, yet some of the same group of users who were bashing the Reggie thread and the OP seemed to be ok advocating and presenting ideas for Muffin. Strange place this forum can be sometimes. Unless the thread was meant to be satire mocking the Reggie thread or something. Nonetheless, we could've very well had arguably probably one of the greatest additions added to the game. But no, instead, a lot of folk's minds were clouded with ignorance and eventually in the end, we got an unstable engine upgrade and a 30 emote pack. Not only shoving Grendel/Uber off the cliff, but overshadowed a potential fun alternative playable hero next to Tommy. *claps* Good game. @Armani? Didn't Halloween just come out? Talk about sad timing lol. I do feel for F13 fans though. This ongoing legal battle is really unnecessary.
  8. I'm worried that Horror Inc kind of screwed it up when they mentioned they were contemplating on an appeal in their public statement or maybe before that. It probably spooked Victor Miller and his legal team, which is probably why they're not responding because they want to stay as safe as possible in case they have to go into another legal battle. Probably not the case though, it's just a bit of a concern I have considering the circumstances that took place between the Miller and Cunningham. I hope I'm wrong about all that and they're actually working out a deal as we speak. @Armani? I really really hope so too. Hopefully with the huge ongoing promotions of the game(Like the free Playstation plus for October, bonus XPs, tape events and merchandise giveaways) it'll be enough influence to convince both parties(Miller and Horror Inc) to come to some sort of an agreement. @wes @ShiftySamurai @GunMedia_Ben This October event you guys are doing is working out nicely by putting the game and franchise back on the radar. Keep this going and show it to the rights holders the best you can. I'm not saying that Gun Media and the community needs to always shoot out e-mails constantly to Miller and Horror Inc requesting their support(Harassing is never cool) but promoting the game is a good way to give you guys some pull from the F13 owners, create better influence and give you a better chance on getting back permission to add more content.
  9. It's funny, I was kind of sad we couldn't Grendel, but at the same time, the more I think about it, I'm kind of glad. Chances are, Tommy would've still been the hero showing up on the map and it just wouldn't feel right. I kind of want either an SS Lazarus or Manhattan Part 8 type of map more than anything. Plus a few other memorable movie characters that can fill some tropes.
  10. Seriously? Announcements like what?
  11. I'm both when it's necessary since my main player is Kenny. I like to throw in a little protection/savior role in the mix too. Basically I just like to play like the final guys from the movies lol. My influences comes from Part 7: A New Blood and the fan film NHA. I'm a mix between Nick and Kyle.
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    Well whatever it is, it doesn't seems like he's saying it's a definite "no" on more content, so I'll take it as something rather than nothing. It's also better than being hit with news that'll be disappointing again.
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    Update from Wes's twitter. https://twitter.com/weskeltner/status/1047585417875415040
  14. Liquid Swordsman

    Victor Miller Wins Lawsuit!

    I don't think everyone would be happy without Pamela. As for the Jason X content, definitely yes. Pamela's connection should be removed from Roy though. I prefer some kind of Joey reference.
  15. Liquid Swordsman

    Victor Miller Wins Lawsuit!

    There is no doubt Jason is in desperate need of some kind of mainstream media attention. If not then, definitely right now. Bringing back content to this game would be a good start to put the Friday The 13th name back in the spotlight in some kind of form. It's not a movie or a television series, but it would be better than nothing. It's a perfect opportunity right now too given it's October and the horror craze is all going to be focused on the new Halloween movie.