Quinn FTW

I'd say one. If we're lucky.

I find that replying, "git gud, scrub," will either shut them up, or cause them to completely rage out. Either way, Counter Troll Accomplished.

With Tommy dead, why did you let them drive away? Sure, some of them may have escaped, but I would have at least tried to make one or two of them pay the price for their insolence.

Yes, sometimes Bots freeze near doors sometimes. Also, Bots go into a hiding spot and never come out. And they can have anywhere from 2 to 12 pocket knives, 1 to 4 shotguns, and about 10,000,000 firecrackers per match. But, look on the bright side. Bots cannot drive worth a damn. Unless your morph and shift are both recharging. Then they are Indy 500 Champs. Bots don't complete objectives. Except every once in a while, when they've got the phone call and a car running before your first morph recharge. Plus, Tommy DGAF Jarvis will straight up murder the other bots for you, so there's that. And Bots are just as likely to commit suicide as stick around and play out the match. So, yeah, it's basically just like a Quick Play lobby without all the dancing and racist voice chat.

Perhaps a change to the player interface, where they can see their perks (maybe in the upper left corner or something, or maybe move the inventory up and put the perks below it) would mitigate some of the confusion. I can't say with certainty that all the perks transfer (at least in a working state) to Jarvis. But (and not to be a troll here), there are plenty that didn't seem to work on other counselors either, so maybe it's an issue with the perks themselves, and not just Jarvis. Assuming, of course, there is a problem, and not just the perception of a problem. Still, I agree with whoever said Vanessa needs buffs. That guy is on to something. (PS - This last part is sarcasm; don't @ me about it.)

Vanessa is too easy to kill. Sure, she's fast, and she's got stamina, but she can't get our of grab very easily. She should be better at escaping grab. And she should come with her own pocket knife, like Tommy DGAF Jarvis. And she should have her own melee weapon that never breaks and always stuns, even in Rage. And she should know where Jason's cabin is on the map.

I got it to happen finally. Higgins Small. I threw a knife at the blue car while Tiffany was trying to get in the back seat and it flipped it over on the covered bridge. I almost got it to happen on Crystal Lake Small. The car didn't flip, but it spun about 60 degrees. I couldn't get it to move any more after that, so I just killed everyone and called it a day. It's an interesting glitch. Thanks for letting me know about it.

I'll give it a whirl and see what's what. Thanks for the tip! [ADDENDUM] I've been playing off and on since yesterday, and, after 24 matches (8 on each of the small maps), I was unable to make this happen. Mostly because the bots never started the fucking car. Not once. They will suicide themselves climbing through broken windows. They will hop in a closet and hide there. They will murder each other with shotguns. But in 24 matches, without any traps or any interference from me, they just could not manage to get a single car started. I just got finished a match. Packanack Small. I spent the last six minutes watching (in stalk, with sense) while Chad would run into the lodge, run up the stairs, run down the hall, run back down the hall, run back down stairs, climb out the window by the desk, run into the lodge, run up the stairs, run down the hall, run back down the hall, run back down stairs, climb out the window by the desk, run into the lodge, run up the stairs, run down the hall, run back down the hall, run back down stairs, climb out the window by the desk, run into the lodge, run up the stairs, run down the hall, run back down the hall, run back down stairs, climb out the window by the desk, run into the lodge, run up the stairs, run down the hall, run back down the hall, run back down stairs, climb out the window by the desk, run into the lodge, run up the stairs, run down the hall, run back down the stairs, and climb out the window by the desk. Endlessly. While I stood on the hill, watching from afar.

Does this only happen on the console version, or can cars on the PC version be knifed into the stratosphere as well?

I can't remember what my highest was. I think it was 10, but that included Tommy. Several counselors had multiples. I mentioned it in another thread a while back. [EDIT] Actually, it was 11. I stand corrected. I remember this match vaguely. I remember tossing Tiffany out of the window at that house in the corner of Crystal Lake Small with just a few seconds left on the clock. There were so many pocket knives that game. http://forum.f13game.com/topic/21476-discussion-rolling-perks/page/11/?tab=comments#comment-359971

Which is the main reason I don't play the SPCs very often.

You know who can drive, though? Tommy "DGAF" Jarvis. In addition to slaughtering counselors with his shotgun, Tommy will run MFers over if he gets behind the wheel of a car. And I actually had him escape one time on Packanack Small. I morph+shifted in front of the car, and he just kept right on driving, pushing me along in front of the car. He took a curve at full speed, pushed me out of the way, then hauled ass right out the exit before my morph could recharge. Of course, some of that might be a bug. I have been unable to bash the yellow car on Packanack Small more than once lately. Even lined up with the center of the hood, the smash prompt wouldn't show, and it didn't autotrigger. I'd report it, but it'd be about the 995th priority on the ever-growing list, and I'll literally be dead long before it ever got fixed / "fixed." That said, I'm deeply disappointed, because Crystal Lake Small and Packanack Small would occasionally be a challenge. Depending on the bots, every once in a while, they'll get a car started before your sense is even active. Or, rather, they used to, before they decided to go on strike, or whatever it is they're doing now.

Still less toxic than random lobbies.

Apparently, the Offline Bots can no longer be arsed to do anything. I have played multiple games this weekend where the majority of them just stand around inside a cabin, waiting to be killed. Had one game where only a single counselor (Deborah) did anything at all, and all she did was trip a trap on the phone box before crawling through a window just to stand there, waiting for the sweet release of death. Even the ones that always have pocket knives (eg Trollnessa), once they stab you and "run for it" will just trot to another cabin, then resume standing around with their proverbial thumbs up their proverbial butts. Anyone else experiencing this? Anyone else even still playing with the Offline Bots?

I take it, then, that you don't play any battle royales like PUBG or Apex, or any open world survival games like Fallout 76 or RUST. Games like those are little more than playgrounds for hackers / griefers. Aimbots, Wallhacks, ESP; there's an industry marketing cheats for those types of games. In addition to in-game cheats, such as teaming / team killing, etc. I've even seen some cheat programs advertised for this game. But mostly it's just been glitchers using exploits or teamers just out to grief and ruin everyone else's good time. Packanack roof. Higgins Hidden Room and/or Bridge. Parking cars in front of doors / the barn / outhouses. Setting bear traps under windows. Running people down with cars. I have to give the development team credit for at least trying. Putting barriers to stop the car issue. Trying to patch out map glitches. But it's kind of like trying to keep water in a sieve. Bottom line: I don't really blame the game; I blame people. They are why we can't have nice things.