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Alkavian

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  1. Well, I think I’ve reached the end of this road. Been away on vacation (not a Bears style vacay, but a real one) and came back to see the forums in a pretty sad state. Lots of desperation, frustration, and beating a horse that has become more of a rug than a corpse. Already seen some good folks leave and some get banned. At this stage, moving on to other things seems best. I no longer have a drive to keep investing time here at this juncture.

    That being said, I must say I’m humbled by amount of folks who took an interest in The Playbook thread, helped contribute to it, and made it a place people could go for some help getting a bit better at the game. I can hardly believe the number of views it has received and the amount of positive feedback it has garnered. Thank you all for taking an interest and providing input. @Kodiak thanks for putting it as a sticky in the General Discussion Forum for people to find. Just letting you know at this point I will no longer be updating it unless some unforeseen and unbelievable development occurs allowing new content to be added to the game. You can unhitch the boat from the dock and let is sink if you so choose.

     

    Thank you to all the good folks I’ve had the pleasure of chatting with over last year and then some. Glad to have made some new friends. Thanks for all the great laughs and games. @bewareofbears, @lHeartBreakerl, @AldermachXI, @Brigadius, @TheHansonGoons, @Tattooey, @Ghostboy20, @BrokenFattHardy, @Riot_Dame, @Risinggrave, and a slew of others that I'm sure I'm forgetting (unintentionally). I'll still be playing F13 on Xbox on occasion, but I don't think the forums have much left to hold my attention. Many of you know how to reach me so it's not goodbye, but rather change of venue. ;)

    I also play quite a bit of Deep Rock Galactic on Xbone. Great indie-game with many new updates and an awesome Dev team. I'd highly recommend it if you want a change of pace.

    This meme reminds me of the forums and the game at the moment.

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    Frankly, I don't want to hang around for the slow death of both. So I bid you all adieu and good luck. ~Alk

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  2. I'll see you when I see you Bears. Sorry to see you heading out, but it is not at all surprising. Keep in touch. You know how to find me.


  3. 16 minutes ago, Ralph_E_Fresh said:

    Future content is a term under the already existing derivative work of Friday the 13th game granted prior to termination.

    Read the quote, the terms of the derivative work continue after termination Future content is a term of the derivative work/ the game.

    Under the terms, they can add content, remove content, alter existing content, expand existing content, they can do whatever is in the terms made prior to termination.

    Future content is a term made prior to the termination.

    "A derivative work prepared under authority of the grant before its termination may continue to be utilized under the terms of the grant after its termination...

    but this privilege does not extend to the preparation after the termination of other derivative works based upon the copyrighted work covered by the terminated grant."

    This says it all. I've tried to be patient and help you understand. I'll leave you to your confusion. Have fun stormin' the castle Ralph.

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  4. 2 minutes ago, Ralph_E_Fresh said:

    The derivative work of friday the 13th the game and it's terms(future content)  which were granted prior to July 2018,  continue after termination

    What Cunningham allowed up until the grant termination yes. Anything after no.....UNLESS....Sean Cunningham wins the lawsuit he filed. In which case it is business as usual. If Victor wins, the game stays as it is unless they want to 1) Get the rights AGAIN from Victor or 2) Open themselves up for litigation and paying summary damages.


  5. Just now, Ralph_E_Fresh said:

    Future content falls under the terms of the derivative work of the game.

    All of it is derivative. Any derivative added after the termination of grant is no longer protected. Making the whole game a target for litigation and recompense. If they don't add any more to elaborate on their derivative work, it remains protected post grant termination. You'd make a horrible lawyer by the way. ?


  6. Just now, zmccain said:

    That doesn't explain why they can't unlock Uber Jason for everyone since he is already in the game.

    Dude. Nothing can be put out past the termination of the grant. All of that stuff is derivative works. If they add it to the game now, they open themselves up to pay Vic the Dick down the line should he win the rights from Cunningham. The lawsuit was supposed to have resolved last October. It hasn't and now we are at the threshold for rights reversion if Vic wins. If Sean wins, no harm, no foul. If ANYTHING gets released past the grant termination date...it makes it fair game to target. The material buried in the code is "unreleased content". Doesn't matter if it is hidden in there. It only matters if GUN formally puts it out there for access.

    Miller filed for the termination of grant two years ago. In theory Uber could be released if they did it before the end of the month. My guess is that they'll choose to play it safe (but you never know).

    "Miller wants to effectuate a Friday the 13th copyright termination in July 2018, which potentially would allow him to license the franchise to other studios."

     


  7. 6 minutes ago, Ralph_E_Fresh said:

    "A derivative work prepared under authority of the grant before its termination may continue to be utilized under the terms of the grant after its termination"

    This game can therefore release future content,

     

    No. The game itself is derivative content under the grant from Cunningham to GUN. It is only protected up until the grant terminates (to include any content in the game).

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    "but this privilege does not extend to the preparation after the termination of other derivative works based upon the copyrighted work "

    This doesn't pertain to future content in the game, this pertains to Other Deriative works. Future content isn't other deriative works,

    Wrong.

    A “derivative work” is a work based upon one or more preexisting works, such as a translation, musical arrangement, dramatization, fictionalization, motion picture version, sound recording, art reproduction, abridgment, condensation, or any other form in which a work may be recast, transformed, or adapted. A work consisting of editorial revisions, annotations, elaborations, or other modifications which, as a whole, represent an original work of authorship, is a “derivative work”.

    Simply speaking, any new content added to the game ranging from emotes all the way up to maps and modes represents a modification or elaboration on the whole of the game. Thus, ALL OF IT IS DERIVATIVE because it represents an original work of authorship.


  8. 1 hour ago, Corkenstein said:
     Not sure what changed since this is still the same lawsuit(to my knowledge) and there hasn't seemed to be a cease and desist letter sent out(or at least one made known) so could this be a scapegoat to wash their hands clean of the project?

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/203

    Read what the law says on the topic. Victor is angling for control based on the claim he was not work for hire.

    "In the case of any work other than a work made for hire, the exclusive or nonexclusive grant of a transfer or license of copyright or of any right under a copyright, executed by the author on or after January 1, 1978, otherwise than by will, is subject to termination under the following conditions...."

    "Termination of the grant may be effected at any time during a period of five years beginning at the end of thirty-five years from the date of execution of the grant "

    Do the math on when Victor filed the lawsuit and how long it has been since F13 was originally released. If Victor wins, GUN is screwed. They cannot put anything past the date of the grant because they don't know the status of who will control it. The previous statements by Horror Inc's lawyers was perfectly valid AT THAT TIME. We are a year down the road and there is no legal decision. GUN cannot and won't work past that grant on "derivative" content so they are not on the wrong side of Victor should he win. They would essentially be handing the game over to him. If they stop now, they are "safe" under the existing copyright law that Victor is using against Sean Cunningham. This is not related to a cease and desist...it is insulation against the fallout of the lawsuit should Victor win. 

    " A derivative work prepared under authority of the grant before its termination may continue to be utilized under the terms of the grant after its termination, but this privilege does not extend to the preparation after the termination of other derivative works based upon the copyrighted work covered by the terminated grant."

     

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  9. Just now, Ralph_E_Fresh said:

    They're in the same position they were in past year, unless there is a cease and desist, if not then there's no legality stopping them.

    No. Read what the law says.

    "A derivative work prepared under authority of the grant before its termination may continue to be utilized under the terms of the grant after its termination, but this privilege does not extend to the preparation after the termination of other derivative works based upon the copyrighted work covered by the terminated grant. "

    This is purely related to the copyright argument being used by Victor Miller claiming he was not doing work for hire under the writer's guild.

     


  10. 5 minutes ago, Ralph_E_Fresh said:

    Yeah but what prompts them now suddenly? The only way they could not release future content is if there is a cease and desist.

    Otherwise nothing's changed and this is quite frankly a lie. I'm not saying they're lying, hence why I ask if there's a cease and desist

    It has nothing to do with a cease and desist. It has to do with copyright law and conditions of termination and effects of termination. GUN is trying not be on the wrong side of the copyright law (should Miller win).

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  11. 1 hour ago, Tommy86 said:

    Imminent death is just what I'm forecasting. No DLC = no revenue.

    They didn't have DLCs for months while the upgrade was pending. They haven't been charging for maps. Jasons have been unlocking for free. Aside from a couple kill packs, clothes, and a couple emotes, their revenue has been from sales. I can see them permanently dropping the price down to about $12.99 to encourage more sales.


  12. 1 hour ago, TiffanyCakes said:

    We aren’t going strong anything new...DO YOU GUYS NOT UNDERSTANT that we just read a farewell message .We aren’t even getting new councilor outfits and they are already in the challenge modes .

    What you read was a placeholder message meant to be a catch-all if the legal wrangling does not pan out SOON.

    The press release says:

    " As many in our community may be aware, a legal claim has been made which could affect all future Friday the 13th intellectual property.

    Although in the past the game has not been subject to any such claim, new content and material going forward will be affected. An initial decision in this case was expected in October 2017, but no decision has yet been issued. The court review of the legal rights is in process, but final resolution may take some time. Until the claim rights can be dismissed or resolved, no new content can be released. "

    So in plain-speak, they could potentially still put out stuff in the future if the legal proceedings get solved, however they were supposed to get done back in October and remain open. GUN is covering their bases by not getting anyone's hopes up knowing full well that the game could die before they can get back to doing updates. They are saying their emotional piece upfront and letting the dice roll with the statement they will get Dedicated Servers up on consoles and keep the lights on as long as they can...

    At this point they are rolling the perk lottery and hoping for something better than Legendary Aquanaut.


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    Well, the news about the IP battle swallowing up the F13 Game is out. Seems like a lot of folks are losing their minds and cashing in their chips. I figured it was probably only a matter of time before it occurred to someone that this game made a fair amount of money that someone might want to squabble about. Undoubtedly, this is a bit heart-wrenching for Devs and fans. No new content until the legal issues subside and get sorted. That could take a minute.....

    I will say that I'm slightly happy with this turn around. Content can go on the back burner and hopefully bug issues can be sorted out with this game. Let's be real people...new content on an unpolished game won't keep folks around for long (we've already seen that strategy doesn't bode well over time). Content is only a band-aid. Wes and Co. seem to be still interested in putting forth Dedicated Servers on consoles, again not a game saving feature, but one that will be welcome. With the current player counts I doubt the servers will actually be tremendously expensive when compared to what they would have had to pay when the game launched. So here are a few things maybe the Dev team should focus down...since apparently the IP issues are putting other things in hiatus.

    1. Fix bugs/glitches/exploits. Go full tilt and polish the game to a high shine. If it is going to survive, it needs this badly.

    2. Go back and start re-vamping/re-designing things that got pushed out quickly at launch and were limited by budget constraints of the time. Perk system, abilities balance, new items in-game, and other things that could use some TLC. Don't waste the opportunity to polish and make the game (as it is) nicer. If the game is going to eventually die, so be it, but let it go out shining like the door of a whore house. All sparkle and rhinestones. If the IP issues get resolved, you'll have a great centerpiece to do a soft re-launch with new content. Make the game you wanted to make, and not the one time/budget forced you to compromise into.

    3. Play test the changes. Get feedback from the community.

    I'm not going to forecast an imminent game death (though it is a possible outcome). That largely depends on what the Devs do next. It's in your court guys. Sink or swim.

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