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  1. How long was the art book delayed? About a year and a half right? For 10 pages (out of 160) of Single Player content including VC, 8 of which are just screenshots. 😆
  2. Tommy86

    Jason is weak

    It is really hard to say. It would require a significant rework of the Jasons which at this point in the game’s life, I simply don’t see happening. So it’s not really worth spending time on. All you can do is simply make the “lesser” Jasons more tolerable, because it is just as you say - any small improvements to them are likely still not going to make them more selectable for competitive play. And with bigger improvements you either run the risk of something unbalanced or having basically no difference between one Jason and another. In that case it is almost always going to be Part 3 who is selected. At the very least all Walking Jasons need to be faster because their lower mobility is an automatic disadvantage, particularly in group combat where any extra mobility is valued. Meat Shielding 100% needs to come back, as it as a highly valuable thing that is often overlooked, same with fixing client block and providing more dmg / stun immunity. I believe those 3 things would go a long way.
  3. Tommy86

    Jason is weak

    Yeah the cooldown on minus Shift would be enough as a negative, as Part 4 has the worst objective control in the game. I also consider him to be the worst Jason in the game, especially since there is zero reason to pick him over Part 3. And he is basically Part 3 with +Destruction at the cost of the worst negatives in the game. The trade off is horrendous. +Destruction is a nice stat but nowhere near that valuable. When you consider that Savini has +Wpn Str, +Destruction and +Shift, with basically no negatives, it is simply laughable. As it stands, Part 3 is pretty much the only Jason that shows up in competitive play, as he is the most balanced. So the other Jasons definitely need some love. Stats like +Throwing Knives also require improvement as all the stat gives you is 4 extra knives, which at most is enough to cripple 2 counselors or kill 1, and that’s providing they have no sprays and are not thick skinned. Once those 4 knives are gone, where is the stat? Nowhere to be found. As far as throwing knives go, and I’ve said it many times, there needs to be a small amount that is auto-refilled per x amount of time. I will explain more in the big post. In this case a +Throwing Knives stat would simply provide more on the auto-refill, which would make it an actually useful stat for the whole match. PS: something else to mention. Minus Stun Resist, if it even functions at all, is actually a POSITIVE. Since if there is more chance of taking a stun, then there is less chance of taking full dmg from a weapon which contributes to killing your mask. You would much rather the low stun dmg. Another stat devs simply didn’t put any thought into at all.
  4. Tommy86

    Jason is weak

    All good ideas, similar to some on my list. Except instead of a truly neutral Shift, I would change the properties of minus Shift so that it only differs by cooldown, not speed or duration. Base Shift and plus Shift are the same speed as it is, so it is odd that minus Shift not only has longer cooldown but also significantly lower speed and duration. That’s a bit overkill on a negative as it currently is.
  5. Tommy86

    Jason is weak

    Incorrect. Jason does take damage on block. I have finished the guide on everything related to Jason dmg (this thread motivated it), so that is the next one going up. FYI it takes 14 blocked hits from Buggzy / 10 Str using heavy hit machete to demask a base Def, and 12 for a -Def.
  6. Tommy86

    Jason is weak

    Thanks, I will get to it. Just working on some last few things to put up for F13. I am already onto Last Year now but I do want to share some more stuff before the month is out.
  7. Tommy86

    Jason is weak

    I am still preparing a major post on combat and all the alternations that can be made to improve Jason gameplay in general. Most of them simply based on changing code values with no extra content / animations required. I am seeing a lot of ideas here in the meantime however and some of them are really going the wrong direction IMO. The same direction that Gun went in the past and was nothing but detrimental to game. So I will say this for now - Add, don’t subtract. Trying to make Jason stronger by subtracting from the counselor experience is 100% not the way to go. It will simply make counselor play less enjoyable and more cumbersome. Counselors can not only be left as is, but even have some old things return that were patched out in the past ie. swing cancel. The goal should be deepen the gameplay, not dumb it down. You don’t need to make Jason stronger by creating a more limited counselor experience. The best way is to simply make Jason more enjoyable / powerful instead.
  8. Tommy86

    Jason is weak

    @KFC Lachappa There is an entire post on block dmg and other weapon tests in the pinned guide on the main page. @BomberBuddy already did all the work, and all of the info regarding block dmg is still accurate as I just recently tested some of it again. Durability values for weapons (dependant on Luck stat) have changed however, some by a large amount eg. Cooking pot with 8 Luck now withstands 20 blocked hits vs the old 8. Weapon Information from Bomber FYI Chad takes the same amount blocked hits to die as Vanessa, Kenny, Fox and Buggzy. The value is 25 with no Thick Skin % reduction. Others are not far off with 22-24 depending on counselor. I definitely recommend reading the linked post.
  9. Tommy86

    Jason is weak

    @DEVILS_REJECTS7 You still haven’t posted it. I will just assume you have either completely made up this beef for no reason at all, or you are of such low intelligence you cannot even understand my posts and choose to jump to conclusions instead. Because I wasn’t being sarcastic in even a single reply to you (prior to you posting trash talk). As anyone else in this thread who would bother to check would see. I will just leave this be now, you can think what you like. TL;DR for the thread - guy doesn’t actually know what he is mad about.
  10. Tommy86

    Jason is weak

    What sarcastic bullshit? Are you high? As I said, symptoms of a fragile ego from someone so grammatically challenged he cannot even explain why he feels offended. I am simply curious what has got you all hot and bothered. Pretty easy to solve your problem, use the quote button and show me.
  11. Tommy86

    Jason is weak

    Something wrong with your memory? You started talking shit about me in not only this thread but also streams for literally no reason whatsoever. Go back a few pages and tell me what exactly I said to make you start acting like an asshole. Or perhaps that is simply your nature in which case you should just gtfo of this forum.
  12. Tommy86

    Jason is weak

    I don’t know where this idea came from that I am disagreeing he is weak. I literally wrote a whole post about what needs to be done in regards to making him stronger, just a few pages back. I even offered to write more on the topic. It is simply that majority of people who say Jason is weak are lacking a significant amount of knowledge and techniques to really make that claim, and would probably feel otherwise against most lobbies if they put any effort into learning them. But of course it is typical that some simply refuse to admit that and would prefer to stay ignorant, rather than make an effort to advance. Symptoms of a fragile ego. I have also heard the “Tommy86 only plays bots” claim a few times before from certain members looking to discredit me. Which is laughable. If they actually bothered to check, the combat techniques I show on my channel are footage from real matches vs real players. The guides that don’t contain that are the ones that don’t require it eg. Trapping guide, so why would I wait to become Jason in some QP lobby when I can simply jump into offline or private and show it right away? I am also not a streamer, not a Youtuber and I have zero agenda behind the channel other than to teach you guys some stuff. As people reading the thread will have seen, I really do my best to help players and the reason they keep coming back for my advice is because what I teach does work and does improve their gameplay. It is no skin off my back that some would rather argue or insult me, although it does give me very little reason to come here anymore. Disagreements are totally fine providing they are respectful, but unfortunately they are often not (as you can see from the random attack in this very thread). This isn’t directed at you Dynamic, just a general post.
  13. Tommy86

    Jason is weak

    Don’t speak too soon. I don’t have a problem with your crew but I will make sure to target you specifically.
  14. Tommy86

    Jason is weak

    To me it looks like you are simply lashing out after receiving a beat down yourself in this thread for lack of knowledge. You had no issue with me when you came in here, now all of a sudden I am getting screenshots from friends of you talking trash in streams about me. And talking trash on the forum now. The thing about my posts and my advice is that anyone with a few brain cells can understand it is based on logic and hard facts, and doesn’t require much more than that to get the point across. Unfortunately it looks as though it is still too difficult to comprehend for you, and that says more about you than me. As far as testing my skill, you will get your chance boy.
  15. Tommy86

    Jason is weak

    @DEVILS_REJECTS7 Mind telling me what your problem is? I know some of your crew by the way, how about you ask them about me yourself before you go running your mouth. There is a tourney coming up soon which I may be part of so you can get your chance then like everyone else. You are not the hot shit you think you are and I have that based on people who have played with you. I had no issue with you before but I am happy to put you on my shit list now.
  16. Yes it would, but the last thing anyone would want is devs to see it and patch it, while leaving the counselors still able to do it. Which let’s face it, that is pretty likely given the game’s history. So for now I will only explain how to do it privately. @Slasher_Clone Thanks man, glad I could help!
  17. Choke always. It is a joy to see 8/8 asphyxiated and listen to the complaints.
  18. No, it is a parody video I made. Jason can get on the roof but I am not making the method publicly available yet.
  19. Tommy86

    Jason is weak

    It would understandably be the biggest challenge, but in that case Tommy box and Phone would still be the priority. Since those 2 objectives have the greatest impact on the match. Tommy coming in not just in regards to the kill, but having a super counselor with 10 stats on everything including Repair is not someone you want in your match (providing they are highly skilled). Obj parts can also be found fairly easily as you say, since there are certain cabins they will absolutely not spawn in so then you just use this knowledge to deduce where they can be found. On certain maps you can even find an obj part in the same place each time (same with certain weapons).
  20. Tommy86

    Jason is weak

    @Fridaythe131 Yep, agree with all. Don't have much more to add tbh. There are always signs whether you are facing a knowledgeable Jason or not, even based on the smallest of things that they do (and same with counselors). Speed Shift - for anyone not familiar with what he is talking about - is done by interrupting the start up anim of Shift by holding R1. Yes, R1 is also used to Strafe Shift, but this is an R1 input that must be done before that. It will increase the distance you are able to Shift basically, as well as helping to catch counselors off guard. Here is a clip comparing regular Shift vs Speed Shift, using traps to gauge distance -
  21. Tommy86

    Jason is weak

    Yep, things have changed. The bat is definitely not 100% stun anymore, not even with SP. Cooking pan is the only weapon that has produced a guaranteed stun each time with SP, which was found through testing. Unfortunately it is only 1-2 hits max as I said, depending on your Luck (had a brain fart and accidentally wrote Str last post). Also in regards to the last point, he may just be used to playing with kill squads. It is a very different experience to a normal match as they generally don’t go for escape objectives, not even to pressure. So providing you have found the Tommy box and trapped it, that is typically enough prior to hunting although I personally protect the phone as well as a precaution.
  22. @NightmareFuel or you could just get up on the roof yourself as Jason.
  23. Tommy86

    Jason is weak

    Weapons are your only chance against any Jason with even a bit of skill. Your best strategy is defensive kiting, which means you only hit when you need to regain stamina. And you do receive stamina even if Jason blocks the hit. While you do lose a bit of it on the dodge cancel, at least you are safe. It is the absolute minority of Jasons who will be able to counter that technique. I also don’t see the correlation between hit speed and stun build. Hit speed is based on 2 things, whether you have Swift equipped, and what weapon you’re using (long range vs short range). I actually value Evasion over Sucker Punch personally, since Epic Evasion makes the dodge cancel so fast that I believe it will even beat block grab. Sucker on the other hand is still dependent on chance unless you use cooking pan, which is the only 100% stun weapon in the game now with SP equipped. And it only gets 1 hit unless you are 6-10 Luck which still only gives you 2 hits. He can simply throw a long range knife at the open window and still deal 20 dmg during your dive. It can be done quite easily. If he is around a corner you are safe, but that is circumstantial. The window dive anim lasts almost 5 seconds so in most cases he has enough time to punish you, whether at the start / middle / end of the anim. In that context, Jason shouldn’t be chasing anyone start of the game. He has to prioritise objective defence. The only exception to that would be if someone is around the phone house, since as soon as you morph they will be tanking those traps. So it is a good idea to remove them before you move onto the 4 seater - although it does depend on the map. If you are on Higgins for example, the Blairs car can get started even before Shift.
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    Jason is weak

    😂 Please stop. As far as relying on windows to regain stamina, if you are on the run you provide the easiest opportunity for Jason to punish you for any kind of window entry. If you try to climb through, your animation can get reset with a knife. If you try to dive, your animation can also get reset mid dive leaving you back outside. And if you do complete the dive, you can be punished with 20 glass dmg + 30 from a knife directly after your dive anim completes, for a total of 50. If you are not thick skin, you are already crippled just from that 1 mistake. F13 - 50% Window Damage If you are not on the run, chances are many of those windows will be broken anyway depending on how late it is in the match, which deal 10 dmg to you on every climb. Windows are not your friend. Weapons most definitely are however, regardless of whether you are a “stun build” or not. Each weapon strike can be cancelled on hit with dodge, making it safe in case of a non-stun. Unless you are up against the 1% of Jasons who can do a perfect block grab which will beat the dodge cancel (extremely unlikely in QP).
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    Jason is weak

    Trouble with Packanack roof counselors did you guys say? I’m just going to leave this here...
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