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  1. I've only skimmed this debate but I agree- no monthly subscription. That's a bizarre suggestion.


    Maps being paid will split the player base. That's a given. They'll have to gauge after release.

    finally someone who has actually heard of these issues and knows about them some people here think there arent any other alternatives to these 2

  2. Cool, go buy world of warcraft and see how far you get without paying to play. That's a complete game, still gotta pay to keep the servers running.


    Go buy Final Fantasy Online, pop it in and see what happens. That's a complete game too, but damn those servers gotta get funded somehow.


    Oh wait ... I keep forgetting certain people here think magic is gonna keep em' running. lol

    it's not magic they could keep the backerkit up and fund maps/severs through backerkit and other dlc like jasons survivor clothes and maybe new kill packs i don't see why they couldn't fund maps every 4-6 months not including new sales

  3. Ha! Calling my idea stupid lol wheres your great smart ideas boy?

    it is for mutliple reasons it counters rage the one thing that is made to be a oh shit they're still here but havent died finish them with these steroids and made it easily countered second reason the sweater is next to his moms head and if you wanna say move it or something then what if they wanna end up doing the teen jason but instead of the sweater mask he's wearing it or keeping the sweater idea as a mask and i already explained the last idea i want jason to be VERY op to the point where the most survivors will be 2-3 and the average will be 0-1 i dislike the idea of this item entirley

  4. Yeah...everyone likes to talk shit and shoot down ideas but noone brings anything to the table in terms of creativity. More of the same. Guarentee if the devs posted this exact thing people would have their heads so far up the devs asses with praise about it.

    no actually i wouldn't i hate the idea of anti jason stuff in my perfect world for the game a max of 2 people would be able to survive with 1-0 being the average i have come up with plenty of ideas in my past posts like a new weapon idea and more but i still shoot this one down because it's stupid

  5. You're expecting everyone to take your assumptions seriously when your assumptions are derived from an ulterior motive.


    You admit it in that post. 17 with no job so you're saying "the game will fail if we have to pay for it!" with the hope in mind that somehow this nonsense will fool/scare the devs into giving you everything for free.


    It's not gonna work. You have to PAY for products and services. 


    The only reason you claim the game won't do well if you have to pay for a subscription is because of your own financial situation. There is no evidence to support your claims and again, they are being made of selfish nature.


    You're 17 ... you can get a PT job. I've been working since I was 15 ... if you want something badly enough, you work for it, you don't expect a handout.

    not only did i say i would pay for all the dlc trumping your arguement im only saying this to get free stuff but i can also trump it by telling you about the fact that i have a rich family member who buys me everything how do you think ive afforded 60+ steam games overwatch and $200 worth of tf2 items without any way to buy shit


    my arguement is based off of past games showing undeniably evidence that has even been mentioned by game journalists like jim sterling before that maps divide communities and cause a drop in playerbase in which this is an indie game with a already decently small playerbase



    and people (newbies who havent heard of or played the game) will not get it over dead by daylight if one is pay monthly and the other is $15 for a game where you can get almost everything for free through additions and such that one is an obvious fact it's like comparing renting a movie over purchasing it subscription gaming isn't a very good model for business anymore and a lot of gamers don't do it as shown from the fact that world of warcraft subscriptions have been slowly but surely on the decline since release reaching all time lows recently


    I am saying they cannot do this shit for the sake of the game not for my own selfish cheap attitudes if i was cheap i wouldnt own a $250 tf2 hat that does nothing other than making me look good stroking my ego on servers full of newbs even if i coudlnt pay for this i want it to succeed because it has my favorite horror brand on it (also i already preordered the tom savini skin the game and counselor clothing pack and THEN donated 10 bucks so there is no reason to be saying it's because i'm cheap and selfish considering there are probably fans who have put LESS money into it than me only buying the game or the game and jason skin) i would support this game till it dies and the reason i say you cant do these things is because it would hurt the game in a major way and i dont want it to die 

  6. Friday the 13 is comparatively so much better than dbd not only can you do a whole range of things not even an option I'm dbd but it's better graphics, better gameplay and has a huge following due to being a franchise that's wildly popular as well as Jason being a social icon and Friday the 13 will be on consoles where as dbd is pc only so pretty much the only people who would choose dbd over this game are pc players who hate quality games

    that doesnt mean that the game wouldnt do better than f13 sales wise if it was subscription based i know i couldnt pay for it every month im only 17 with no job so i know i sure as hell couldnt pay for it EVERY month which i might not do every month i can due to me only being able to game on weekends and of course not everyone likes or pays for subscriptions so i don't think the game would last as long if it went subscription compared to dead by daylight which is technically almost a year old already so it technically is already succesfull meaning if this game was subscription based it probably would do worse and might lose out to dbd

  7. Best way if you want scare possible new players. People will select Dead By Daylight (free maps and no-monthly subscription) before Friday The 13th if they make this. REMEMBER! This game have competition.

    thank you for reminding me about this that is another thing we have to account for the devs have to do stuff in a way similar or better to dbd or it could die even faster to dbd they have to do stuff similar or cheaper or easier etc than dbd


    so no subscriptions or dlc maps

  8. Best way to do that ... monthly subscriptions.


    Everyone gets maps, game makes a profit, game continues.


    No profit = no more game.


    No one in their right mind would go into the red to maintain a game not making any money.


    I don't think an indie game will make people pay a monthly sub to play

    i don't think monthly subscriptions is the way to go 


    plus won't they get some revenue from consoles ps+ and xbox live subscriptions or something?


    So that I understand this ... DLC maps are no good, monthly subscriptions are no good as those things will all turn people off.


    But somehow charging double ONLY for new Jason skins won't turn anyone off and will somehow fund running the game on servers, and producing new maps AS WELL as these new Jason skins?


    If that is your idea, you are smoking some good stuff bro.


    1. There are only so many Jason skins left to even make available.


    2. Double charging for them and hoping enough people buy them in order to cover all the other costs that I have explained in great detail is the most unlikely of scenarios there is.


    3. That kind of idea comes from someone who is .... cheap.


    4. No one needs your permission or for you to be here to discuss this stuff.


    5. If you don't want to pay for a subscription or DLC, don't ... no one would be forcing you to.


    And, lastly ... if paying to keep something active and running turns you off from playing ... you're probably weren't that interested in the first place.

    the paying for maps wont turn people off but it will divide the community which is even worse than turning a few cheap cucks off because they dont wanna play, a community can survive without MORE players joining but it cannot survive players LEAVING due to map dlc dividing community i only dont want map dlc because i dont want this game to die not because im cheap hell if they put the rest of the jasons in the game as a dlc pack i would pay $2000+ for that shit but i do not want this to die ecpecially after all this waiting, i want this to be a game that lasts 6+ years of lifespan AT THE LEAST i want this game to literally still be out and somewhat relavent (like tf2 which has lasted 10 years now) for a long time

  10. I don't think they are going to do monthly subscription and they definatley should NOT do dlc maps idk why everyone discusses this stuff while i'm gone but i have already went into great detail about why maps shouldn't be dlc (and no it's not because i'm cheap i would gladly pay for any dlc they make it's all about community splitting) and i don't think they would do subscription nor do i think it would be a good idea due to it probably turning people off of the idea of playing the game

  11. 3 maps are fine to release ... and again, those who want the game YESTERDAY want more and more added before release and yet don't wanna wait, that's ridiculous. DLC later can bring more maps, but if you entitled fools expect them free then idk what to tell ya. 


    NO company ever is going to take a loss because some whiny kids on the internet bitched and moaned that they want free stuff.


    More maps cost more money. If you want them so badly, pay for them as DLC. Or pay monthly subscription for online play and then maybe the DLC will just be added when it's worth doing.


    Triple A games ... people buy DLC or not, people pay subscriptions or not. Everyone knows these companies are not going to change their model because you bitch, or because you're cheap and don't wanna pay for extra content.


    Gun Media's mistake was being so transparent and accommodating because it has attracted the leeches who show full disrespect to such a willing-to-work-with-us company by expecting things to be handed.


    If Triple A companies need to charge for DLC why the HELL would you think an indie game can just keep producing for you with no cost to you at all? People trying to take advantage of kindness as weakness. Gun has been AMAZING with implementing feedback from beta, taking polls on added Jason skins and the whole nine ... and yet there is still this segment of people who wanna walk over them.


    It's disgusting. 


    They are making a game for the fans which is absolutely amazing and rather than be a part of growth of the game, this element of people want growth with no contribution.


    NEWSFLASH: If you backed kickstarter or backerkit, you backed what we are GETTING AT RELEASE.


    If you want more, and you want the game to last ... then contribute to that.


    I keep seeing "oh well DLC and making people pay for more stuff will make the game flop." NO, what will make the game flop is these leeches who want,want,want but don't wanna put up to keep it running. You want more content, maintained servers and an online game which isn't shut down in 6 months, you PAY to keep it going. If you aren't interested in it enough to contribute to lasting gameplay and experienced, or new content ... then you really have no place to speak.


    The devs owe us NOTHING beyond launch and yet they WANT to add more and grow it. But you want it all for free.


    LOL! Go back to Call of Duty or Final Fantasy ... oh WAIT! You have to PAY for those add ons or monthly online play. *GASP*


    But yeah ... the indie game can just give to you for free what triple A games change for LOL ... wow the ignorance.



    EDIT: I think/hope it should be clear to which section of people this post is meant for. Obviously not for everyone in this thread.

    you still can't make maps dlc but i'm fine with paying for anything else hell i'm fine with paying an extra 10 bucks on something that would have usually cost 5 so maps can get funded without having to make us directly pay for them as long the community doesn't get split up by dlc maps

  12. This is one of the big problems with the F13 license or setting a game in a single horror license in general. There just really aren't that many iconic areas, or ways to mix up the environments. That being said, the current maps are big and randomly generate the cabins so it's not that big of an issue. It would be great to have more maps, but it would also mean the methods of escape would have to be different. Like the boat from part 8 for example. 

    well the maps are generally iconic but each one doesn't really differ much from eachother although i gotta say the game made the higgins haven house and barn for me iconic and memorable idk wut it was but by the time i finished watching people play the beta i loved those buildings and could spot them instantly idk why though

  13. Tbh i don't mind low map ammount the maps aren't the appeal or even that big of a thing for the game to me aslong as everything is randomized in different spots (cars items and phones) 

    but one rule they must follow is the no dlc maps that kills a games playerbase division of a games players kills the game unless they're big enough like a cod level of popularity and un killableness let alone a tiny indie game like this 

  14. Platforms divide players, timezones divide players, players themselves divide players.


    Map packs will only divide the interested from the uninterested. Personally, I'd prefer to play with people interested in the game. If you're not interested enough for new content, that's fine by me. I'll stick to playing with people who are.

    division of a playerbase is always bad even if some of the people aren't as passionate as you/others doesn't mean they aren't players uninterested players quit/don't buy the game you shouldn't treat people who fanboy buy everything like me or you as inferior they're usually a majority of the players and even when it only divides interested and disinterested players it can still kill a game unless your game is COD levels of big map packs usually have very negative effects on your game ecpecially a kickstarter indie game such as this

  15. I think you are making assumptions that you can't prove. We don't know how many of the people asking for a release date are PC or console players. I'd hazard there are more console players than PC players even. Consoles are far more popular gaming platforms than PC.

    well yes but you can't deny that the earlier release for pc would give earlier feedback meaning the game would get early feedback for a more stable console launch


    also going by the official friday the 13th game discord server 2 thirds of the players are pc and one fifth of that is xbox and the rest is ps4


    I mean that isn't the MOST accurate way to judge this but it should show that it's either more pc players or even between the 2

  16. That won't matter. If they can't get over hearing "Early 2017" then hearing that excuse wouldn't fly.


    Edit: I think you're giving people too much credit. I mean have you seen how things work on the net?

    yes but this still means less people asking when release is and early 2017 stuff as well as the few console players that arent total whiners constantly asking for release will stop whining due to less buggy launch and such people are whining either way

  17. I honestly don't care too much personally. This is one game I would buy map packs for. I mean hell I already bought the counselor clothing and I don't usually waste my money on things like that, but for this game I'd throw the entire contents of my wallet at them.

    yeah but map dlc can divide a playerbase which can kill a games players and divide up the matchmaking and of course make more people quit


    it doesn't matter what you specifically do but it's about the community as a whole


    This is/was being discussed in another thread. You made another thread to ask for freebies.

    that other post i made wasn't about that though some people just briefly mentioned it in the comments i want a post where we can talk about it as the main topic and we can discuss it in depth while also having a chance at getting an awnser from the devs

  18. But by doing that you'll piss off and alienate all the console players that have been waiting just as long as you have and maybe even paid in more than you. That doesn't seem fair to me.

    well yes but i would tell all of them that they only have to wait longer because of the console companies and to complain to them to get it out faster and also tell them that since pc got it first they can patch more bugs meaning launch on console would be more stable with less crashing and less bugs

  19. We should not have to wait because of consoles.  I cant wait.

    while they said it's not consoles fault and not to blame them i do because i feel that they should have just released for pc while working on console cert that way they could get early feedback for the game and maybe that way console companies (sony and microsoft) might be more leanient with the console cert requirments not asking of stupid stuff like working with dance pads in the menus and such when they see it's all popular all over pc with tons of fans playing enjoying and feeling good about the game

  20. So there has been talk of dlc as of the most recent pax and i have been worried the devs might try to do map dlc which wouldn't be very good for the game/it's playerbase and i do not want this game to end up flopping for something as basic as map dlc which already can break some AAA games that aren't quite cod levels of undieing so i would hate to see it happen to this game ecpecially since this is a tiny indie project ALMOST everyone agrees at this point map dlc can hurt a playerbase so i just want some confirmation from the devs that this won't be a thing and to hear everyone elses worries/opinions on the matter

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