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I've been having this problem a lot lately too especially on my Steam account. I would pick a counselor like Fox or AJ to start with and get a different counselor like Tiffany or Buggzy. It doesn't happen a lot but it does happen. I hope they patch this soon.

Does anybody know what the current status of the F13 lawsuit is? I haven't found anything recent on the internet.

Although I'm not officially retiring from the game, I'm not playing it as much as I used to. I'm playing Dead by Daylight more now. I think the reason is because Dead by Daylight keeps creating new content that keeps the game fresh and exciting. Recently, they introduced a new killer called the Blight and a new survivor named Felix Richter. Both characters come with new perks too. Although I haven't purchased nor played either character, their introduction does introduce a certain variety. Their latest patch has also improved some of the animation and graphics. I also think another reason why I don't play F13 as much as I used to is because once your reach level 150, there's nothing to look forward to except for maybe the opportunity to roll for better perks. In my opinion, once you've reached level 150, the only reasons to play is either for the pure fun of it or to hang out with your online friends. In fact, I've reached the point where some of my online friends have become more entertaining than the game itself. A few of them have developed some great comedy routines! Playing Dead by Daylight has really highlighted the importance of new content for me. Without that, I would imagine a lot of people will lose interest in playing a game over time. I know Gun's official position is no new content ever, but once the lawsuit is over, they might want to reconsider that position. Although I doubt that they will based upon their most recent press release, but in my opinion, introducing new content will increase the longevity of the F13 game. That's all I have to say. Thanks for reading and peace out.

What you said may be true, but I still don't see speed as a top tier stat. Based upon my previous experiences, speed may help you to outrun Jason or get to a cabin quicker, but that stat is dependent upon stamina. If you run out of stamina while Jason is chasing you, then I don't think it matters if your speed is lightning fast or as slow as a turtle, Jason is going to get you. I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to agree to disagree. In my opinion, stamina still remains a top tier stat while speed remains a bottom one.

I'm sorry, Carlso, but I'm going to have to agree to disagree. Based upon my experiences, speed doesn't seem to be all that valuable when Jason uses shift. In fact, just the other night, I was playing Jason and used shift to catch a Vanessa who was running as fast as she could from me. I caught and killed her. When you say doing the chicken dance, I assume you mean the counselor running in a random pattern to avoid a shift attack. If that's what you mean, then I don't understand how speed will help with that. I believe any counselor running in a erratic way can avoid a shift attack even low speed counselors like Mitch and Eric. Could you please explain how speed helps a counselor to do an effective chicken dance? I honestly don't see how.

I probably shouldn't have used the word, "useless." I think your description of "less effective" is more accurate. Yes, I have heard of how difficult it is to find a No-Fear Jenny. However, as you have pointed out, if Jason is close enough, he will find Jenny regardless of her no-fear build. Based upon that, I believe I can say having a high composure is no guarantee of success when Jason is in rage mode.

Out of curiosity, what perks do you use with Kenny?

I don't think composure is trash. I think composure and its sister stat, stealth, are useful up to a point. If you're playing a high stealth/high composure counselor like Mitch or AJ, I believe it would be best to complete an objective ASAP and then get your butt the hell out of there. From what I understand of the game, once Jason goes into rage mode, composure and stealth are useless. At that point, I believe stamina is the best stat to have because Jason is going to be chasing you all over the map. From past experiences, a low stam counselor like Mitch or AJ isn't going to last too long especially if an objective is not completed whereas a high stam counselor like Vanessa or Tiffany would at least have a fighting chance of running out the timer if nobody's completed an objective. In my opinion, my stat ranking would be this: 1. Stamina – In my opinion, this is your lifebar. If you run out of this when Jason is chasing you and you don't have a pocket knife or a weapon, you die. 2. Repair - In my opinion, somebody has to complete the objectives. If they're not completed when Jason enters rage mode, your counselor has a high chance of dying. Way too often, I see public lobbies filled with Vanessas, Tiffanys or Buggzys. Yes, those counselors are nice and fast but they are lousy at fixing objectives. They are too slow and have too many skill checks. Because of that, I believe it's best to play a counselor with at least a six or higher in repair like Fox or Adam. 3. Composure - I believe this is a great stat during the first half of the game when Jason is not in rage mode. But once Jason enters rage mode, this stat becomes useless. 4. Stealth - Same thing as composure here. I think stealth is good when Jason is not in rage mode, but useless when he enters it. 5. Luck - From what I can tell, luck is only beneficial with weapon durability, crawling through a broken window, or starting a vehicle. This stat isn't all that important to me for the following reasons: I rarely fight Jason so weapon durability means little to me. I use a 20% thick-skin perk which protects me from broken windows. Based upon my past experiences, there's only a few seconds of difference when starting a vehicle between a high luck counselor and a low luck counselor so this doesn't mean much to me. 6. Strength - This perk only seems to be good at demasking and stunning Jason. Since I rarely fight Jason, this perk has little value to me. 7. Speed - In my opinion, this is the least valuable stat in the game. I believe Jason's shift ability effectively negates this stat. Because I place high value on stamina and repair, my main counselor is Fox. Her repair score of six allows her to repair quickly with only three to five skill checks. I believe her stamina score of five is at least passable and gives her a decent chance of juking Jason. If you use the 15% marathon perk on her, her stamina pool would be slightly higher than an unmodified Vanessa allowing her to lead Jason on a merry chase around the map. That's all I have to say for now. Please be advised that everything I've written in this post are my opinions only. Thanks for reading and peace out.

You might be joking, but if not, I don't think you can use Tommy in a tier list. He's not a counselor you can choose to play but rather a hero who is randomly assigned to a player who either died or escaped.

Several weeks ago, I posted a fairly in-depth counselor tier list. You can check it out here: http://forum.f13game.com/topic/28510-my-counselor-tier-list/ The short version of my tier list would be this: S Tier: Fox and Vanessa A Tier: Adam, AJ, and Victoria B Tier: Buggzy, Tiffany, and Jenny C Tier: Mitch, Chad, and Kenny F Tier: Deborah, Eric, and Shelly

Part 5 Jason is my main. In my opinion, he's the most balanced Jason in the game.

I must have misunderstood what you said. My apologies for that. Yes, I agree that Jason can interrupt AJ repairing an objective if he throws a knife at her. But wouldn't that happen with Eric as well? For that matter, wouldn't that be true of any counselor? On 8/2/20 at 1:28 PM, Carlso said: Yes, you can do that with every counselor. But on your second stun, the bat broke, and you had to get out of there to pick another weapon. If you were Lachappa, you would stun him the third time, and the people of the yellow car would've started the car. Yes, I agree that Eric is a much better fighter than AJ. In fact, she's probably the worst fighter in the game which is why I don't think it's a good idea for her to go toe to toe with Jason unless she has to. I must have misunderstood your original post. My apologies for that. I was under the impression that you thought AJ couldn't stun Jason and I was showing that she can. I agree with your statement: "it's just a matter of what stat you think is more important." As I said before, any counselor can be good in the hands of a skilled player. If you prefer Eric over AJ and have had good success playing him, then by all means, continue to play him. The tier list and all comments on the counselors are my opinions only and I know others may not agree with them. As an aside, you say Mitch is your main and the best counselor in your opinion. In my list, I rated Mitch much higher than Eric. So can I safely assume that you and I would agree that Mitch would be a much better choice than Eric?

I'm going to have to agree to disagree with some of the things you've posted. Granted Eric may be better at escaping traps and stunning Jason, but AJ can certainly repair an objective by herself with Jason nearby. I've done that several times. In fact, I did that last night. I agree with you that Eric's luck and strength are better than AJ's so he would make a better fighter than her. However, I wouldn't play either counselor as a fighter unless I had to. In my opinion, you would need either a high strength character like Adam or a high luck character like Victoria to effectively fight Jason. As an aside, you can stun Jason with AJ. I've stunned Jason many times when I played her. Here's proof to back up my statements. Please check out this video of me playing AJ last night. I put gas in the two-seater with Jason running toward me and then I knocked him down later with a bat: Your original message sounded to me like you were saying that Jason will morph to an objective if he sees the noise rings near it. To the best of my knowledge, I've never encountered a Jason who played that way. In this post you seem to be indicating that if Jason sees you with the objective part like the battery or the gas, he will tunnel you. Yes, if Jason actually "sees" me with an objective part like the battery or gas, he will chase me. That has happened to me several times.

Like I said before, any counselor can be good in the hands of a skilled player but if you're interested in being stealthy, why not pick AJ over Eric? In my opinion, she would be a much better selection than him. My prior experiences seem to indicate otherwise. Based upon the games I've played, most Jason players will usually trap the objectives first, knock out the electrical boxes, and then chase whatever counselor happens to be nearby. The only time Jason has ever morphed to an objective that I'm fixing with Fox, Adam, or any counselor for that matter is if I fail a skill check. I agree that perhaps a good Jason will morph to an objective where he/she sees a lot of noise rings, but I've never encountered one who played that way. Based upon my experiences, most Jasons will only follow the noise rings if he/she can't sense anybody. I agree that Fox and Adam may not be ideal lone wolf counselors but they could certainly perform that role if necessary. In fact, I have done so many times. While I also agree that Eric could perform as a lone wolf counselor, I still think AJ would be the superior choice. Please consider the following: she has a ten in stealth whereas Eric has an eight, so she would emit fewer noise rings than him. AJ has a seven in composure wheras Eric has a four, so she can manage her fear better and stay off of Jason's radar for much longer. She also has a four in stamina as opposed to Eric's two. This would allow her to run farther than Eric and gives her a better chance of escaping Jason. In my opinion, the only real advantage Eric has over AJ is his repair score of ten as opposed to AJ's score of seven. But I don't see this as a big deal. Eric gets an average of two to three skill checks whereas AJ gets an average of three to five. While this would allow Eric to fix an objective faster than AJ, we're talking a few seconds at most. Therefore, I don't think Eric's repair score is a meaningful advantage.

I agree that any counselor could be good with the proper support but unfortunately I and I believe others rarely encounter a good, well-coordinated team especially in the public lobbies. I agree counselors like Chad and Eric could be great in a team environment but in my opinion they're lousy as lone wolf characters. Because I believe you can't depend upon a good team to help you, I think it would be best to select a counselor who could function well as both a team player and a lone wolf like Fox or Adam.