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  1. People continue to play games but complain about it because before something happened, people enjoyed the game and want it to be fixed or changed. I said at the beginning of the new patch that it would cause people to leave because of the new buffs, but after being away for a few months and now hearing off even more BS going on, it's only going to drive more people away, sure, you'll always get a % of player base that will stick around, but more people will leave then people who continue to play the game, and at the end of the day, we can sit here and say "Goodbye, no one will miss you" etc, but really, for those who still stick around and play it, do you guys really want to have to deal with all the bugs and glitches that happen in it? This game started declining once no new content was announced and it's going to get worse but had the lawsuit no happened, it would've been still going strong and it's shit what happened to the game and even though i've been critical of the direction it's ended up going, i still on rare times, try to find a game, tonight i found a lobby of 5 on Asian serves (Australian fyi) 700 ping, and 3/5 players were buddies who tried to team up and do glitches. Not fun, but i'll still try to see if it has any luck in the future.
  2. Swift attacker was probably the best perk you could have before the rage buff was added. If you needed to outlast Jason and you had the best valued addition to the perk, you could literally out hit him every time. If you play on high ping with it, it glitches and is a lot quicker by the animations then on good ping servers.
  3. @badassgixxer05 Exactly what i did, i posted a few replies and seeing how i don't play the game anymore didn't log in, then when i was bored i logged back in just to see if there was any news on future patches and i see a comment to me which was directed to the OP of this thread which was again being immature and further exposing how upset people get when their egos are hurt, if you're gonna start throwing out shade to people, throw out to the one's who still can't get over something that happened a month ago. @Ahab Yeah yeah yeah, keep exposing the damaged ego off yours pal, funny how people claim i'm still not letting go off all that childish bullshit, yet you went out of your way to reply too me when i didn't even mention you. As i said, keep the ice on the bruised ego superstar. @Slasher_Clone *Cough* Sorry dude, i'm allergic to bullshit and i would never tell someone who can't hold a mature conversation about how adults can put bullshit aside and agree to disagree, which is something you my little friend don't understand the concept off.
  4. @Ahab Wow, so i log back onto this account after weeks to find that you still messaged me complaining like a 5 year old. I made up with some people on here after that thread got closed down, but i still see that you can't let it go because you were proven wrong and took the bait, seems the ego is still bruised. Take a ice pack to that bruised ego of yours and have a chill pill son.
  5. @Slasher_Clone Explain to me why i would to continue to get into it with a troll who can't keep up with a mature conversation? As i said in the other thread, once you resorted to trolling, it only proved that you try to act smart, but when you're called out for being wrong, you resort to childish posts. I don't have to move on, this a public forum and unless i get banned, i'm not moving on, if you don't like these threads, then you move on. His views are open minded like mine, and when i say open minded i'm saying that it;s going to rub people the wrong way because people aren't used to that type of expression. Regardless of what you think, his been trying to hold an actual debate with people unlike you who resorted to trolling when a situation you couldn't handle arose. @J-Ray I'd refer to it as being passionate lol, but yes it is a lot of writing, early part of it was with actual people who were mature enough to respond with maturity and actual points about the topic of discussion, the other half was trolls who couldn't handle being proven wrong and then one's who resorted to threats and called people out on their experience but backed down when i challenged them to test my knowledge on the game. It's a....uh....very interesting thread.
  6. @OCT 31 1978 I can't speak for others experiences playing the game, but i noticed once the lawsuit happened, all this trolling just got worse. I guess in a way, that's why i liked the game before the patch, because obviously fighting Jason to defend yourself is part of the game, but i'm sure we've all had that great feeling when you get a bunch of teamers or someone who is Jason going after you and no one else and you can survive the night and keep knocking them out, Don't get me wrong, escaping normally is what i always try to do, but you have those really pathetic games with people who team up with Jason or he just tunnels you. Sometimes putting them in their place is rewarding. @Slasher_Clone I'm not going to get into a pathetic back and forth again, because honestly, you can't hold a mature conversation, and this thread will get locked, but i'll say this just to get it out there : The "fans" were trolls like you who resorted to childish posting. @Sir Jack might have a mixed reaction by his thread, but at least he is trying to have an actual debate about a part of the game, not resorting to trolling because he was proven wrong.
  7. @Sir Jack That's the issue with most games : When things get too hard or can't be countered, it gets a negative backlash. Look at Overwatch for example, how many times do they nerf and buff characters because people complain that they can't counter certain heroes or this hero is too weak or too OP. I stand by my own personal opinion that th reason why the game turned into a troll fest was because the lack of new content made the game stale. I remember early days that everyone tried to escape via objectives and killing Jason was something we all wanted to do because back then it was a rare thing because no one knew how to do it. Even when the emotes came out, people used them because obviously a new part of the game is going to be popular on release, but it was never used as bad as it got to. I think if the lawsuit didn't happen, then the game wouldn't of gotten so bad, yes, there would've still be trolls, but not as bad as it got to. Remember, we had paranoia mode coming, Jason X, Grendel map and they would've made new counselors, new maps, new clothing, new kills etc, so i think if they had happened then people would've had something to play for rather than just trolling and even if the increased the level cap, more people wouldn't of done what they ended up doing. A good Jason would never let himself be that exposed, if he knew that the counselors were Jason hunters, he would trap the shack, use his first morph to destroy the generator that's located near the Tommy house and trap it (which you stated) and would try to isolate and use his weapons and abilities to their full potential. You'd be surprised how many times i've isolated counselors who are in a group of 5-6 and used a quick shift grab/quick kill. If a Jason knows how to stalk and shift, it can isolate a lot of group hunters. Also, with how the new rage buff is, a Jason could just let you guys get him in rage quickly and have the generator and the shack trapped. I've never soley worried about Jason killers. Everytime i've played, i've always trapped objectives and disabled the generators (manly to find high stealth characters) and i've never been killed as Jason, i've come close twice, first time i used to stalk to shift grab the Tommy and use a quick kill on him, 2nd time i was in a 500ping lobby with all lvl 150 american players and they messed up the kill animation. I think the biggest issue here is that we all have different views and opinions on how the game should be played. As it stands, the main aim of the game given how it's set up is to find objectives and repair them and escape, weapons are used to protect others and yourself, Tommy is called in to help the counselors survive and he is the only one who can kill Jason. That's how it's meant to be played, but it's not illegal to play the game by juking Jason, trying to hide from Jason for 20 minutes, before the patch, fighting Jason until the end or in some's opinions "trolling Jason". The new buff is now telling players that if you want to try to bully Jason, you still can, but once rage hits, you can only juke him around instead of stunning him. I agree with others that the trolling aspect of teabagging, emoting and bullying Jason wasn't in the spirit of the game, but it was manly down to the complaints of people who didn't appreciate it. If no one complained, it wouldn't of been changed, people complained about Jason's grab and they changed it to make it more a skill based option. It was a win for the counselors because they could bait Jason out to try to swing and with how it is now, he is more open to being counter stunned which was what people complained about as well. You can't please everyone, all you can do is try to enjoy the game, and if it causes you more drama then happiness, it's a good idea to play a different game.
  8. True, but escaping via objectives is more consistent given that not every game you'll have players who you can work with to kill Jason.
  9. Have you tried running the swift attacker perk? Any increase in swing speed and can do a lot of difference. With the new update, fighting Jason is only advisable if it's a last option. The way the game is now, unless you can juke Jason for 20 minutes without stunning him when his in rage, escaping via objectives is your best bet.
  10. @Slasher_Clone I'm only stating the facts dude, it's not my fault you can't handle the truth. If anyone's to blame for this getting to where it was, it was you for resorting to trolling, and that was only in regards to you not being able to accept the fact that i listened to people's complaining about the double posting, that's when you acted like a troll. I get it, your ego is high and you're a proud individual, but sometimes it's better to admit you were wrong then resorting to childish name calling/trolling posts.
  11. I had a game where i was Tommy and my friend had just been killed and it was me and Vanessa and she grabbed the sweater and i thought "cool, we'll kill Jason". Little did i know that the Jason and The Vanessa were teaming up because they didn't like the fact that in the previous game, they were killed by me as the Jason, so they decided to team up, juked Jason around for the last 5 minutes while the Vanessa was just following me around. Had another incident where there was a whole lobby of friends trying to kill me and my friend. They even went as far as trying to block the doors with the cars. Ended up escaping, but you wouldn't believe how far people are willing to go to kill someone.
  12. I remember when the game came out and for a while after it's release the grab range was ridiculous. Jason could grab a counselor from across the other side of the road. We used to call it the magno grip. I actually watched a stream of a youtuber who played it around the release date the other night and he tried to swing at Jason, but Jason was still coming out of his animation of killing a counselor and he literally ran 4-5 steps and Jason grabbed him when the original motion of the grab was swipe down animation but it would grab people miles ahead of what it should've. Sometimes it glitches a bit now, but it's nowhere near as bad as it used to be.
  13. @Slasher_Clone Well you and me were having a productive conversation until you started to troll, so by your logic, you should practice what you preach. Just some friendly advice ( - : I think the only failed attempt to troll was your attempt at it. Thinking it would wind me up when all it did was make you look weak for not being able to hold a mature conversation. Nevermind, i won't be the last person you resort to trying to troll, so if that makes you happy, then by all means, continue doing it.
  14. If you look back at the start, i was having a proper argument with other users, it was only when the trolling started, that this all became one big joke as in how pathetic it has become, the reason it's the same repeated quotes is because the people i have replied to have failed to re read what i have said and have asked or said things that were already answered/said. I wasn't the one who started the trolling and insulting, maybe you should say that to other members who clearly disagreed with what i said and kept on replying. I've given plenty of facts dude, weather those people choose to believe it not is up to the, i've even asked certain members to quiz me to see if i'm lying or actually telling the truth, i can't help it if they're too scared of being proven wrong. I can respond to who i want to, i'm not insulting you, so what's the big problem? @Kodiak Dude, i've been on heaps of forums, and i've never had an issue with "spamming". And it wasn't spam, it was replying to each person who replied to me, In fact, what you did was pretty harsh as well, you could've given me a warning, but you gave me a strike. I would've listened to what you said hence why i ended up changing the way i posted. It's funny because @Ahab has been saying the same things even going as far as insulting me personally and even resorting to threats, but i'm the bad person lol. Not that i care, just saying me getting a lecture, but others aren't is pretty pathetic. Hey, i came on here wanting to voice my opinion, and i had good users who respected that and others who resorted to insulting, i never wanted a pathetic thread of childish behaviour.
  15. It's more skill based than what is was beforehand, you used to be able to miss grabs and get away with it from time to time, when they changed it, if you missed, you were an easy stun, so to a lot, they saw it as a nerf but i never thought of it as a problem, just meant being smarter with your reaches, rather than being able to spam the grab animation. You were also able to spin around quickly and grab someone behind you, the new grab doesn't give you that luxury.
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