SirMang

See the dresser thing doesn't actually encourage the bad or new Jason player to get better because they've likely torn apart the entire Packanack Lodge and they probably wouldn't think to check behind that dresser. Other maps have similar places to hide, but from my experience Packanack works best for it. To be honest when he tossed someone out the window literally 3 steps from me I have no idea how he didn't see me either during the kill or the turn around to go through the Lodge after. I had whoever that Jason was tied up with the main cabin for 5 minutes in the middle of the match until he gave up. Of course for the final 3 minutes of the match he got to come back and still couldn't find me. An experienced player knows the spot, an experienced player knows to check that spot as Jason, the inexperienced player has no clue until they are a counselor and see someone else do it or they go watch some Youtube videos. Hiding outside of same lodge by the fireplace is another one of those troll spots that doesn't encourage a player to get better. An inexperienced player will have no idea that you're actually outside of the lodge while his sense is lighting up the lodge. Both of those are just frustrating experiences for the new or bad Jason. I obviously still do the first example but I won't do the second because I think it's extremely cheap. Another fun place to hide against the inexperienced or bad Jason is Crystal Lake by the boat exit. I went in QP with a couple of friends and we had a random follow us out there. There were 4 of us just hanging out at the boat exit for the entire match and Jason never came out to find us. It's another cheap example but all you need is for one person in the lobby to get sick of the waiting game and send the Jason a message or the Jason already knows the spot and you're cheap kills. The real trolling is the dance party at the police or the teabag however. As well as those who carry around objective parts all match and do nothing with them. Or the people who drive the car right into the water. I won't do any of those 4 things. Another real trolling action is to take a car and drive it to Jason's shack or any 1 door cabin and block the door. Get out and get in the cabin or his shack and then he has absolutely no way of getting to you. The shack is a one person troll job, a one door cabin can be an entire lobby troll job. I cannot say I haven't done the shack.

I throw people off in my trolling. When I want to go all out troll mode, trolling Jason, trolling other counselors, I play little bunny foo foo hopping through the forest with Da-BORE-a. That is the proper pronunciation of her name. When you enter a match as Da-BORE-a no one thinks you will be the troll of the lobby. And, they're all in for a surprise. Waiting around corners by buildings, by doors, with the car to just smack Jason as he walks by never gets old. Purposely hopping through and breaking every window possible and using health spray, never gets old. Running an item to the car and just dropping it while a Vanessa is standing near the car and telling her to fix it never gets old. In fact, the way I play Da-BORE-a she is the ultimate troll character. When I play as Jenny, I make full use of her stealth and composure with sense avoidance perks on. I will hide the entire match. I don't give a fuck about helping you, helping a friend, helping anyone...I'm hiding. If I see someone enter my cabin and don't hear Jason's music, I will get out of my hiding spot and follow them to the next cabin...and hide. I cannot tell you how many times I've been chilling in a closet and watched Jason go by because he's chasing someone else through the cabin. I'll hear Jason pick the other counselor up...I'm still hiding. I'll watch him leave and laugh. Packanack Lodge is the ultimate troll paradise for either Da-BORE-a or Jenny. Hide in the main lodge. Upstairs bedroom to the right of the stairs. Back corner of the room behind the dresser after you open the door. Crouch. I've seen Jason's throw people out that window in front of me. I've seen Jason players take out the closet in front of me. I've trapped a Jason player come through that door, neither window is open, he takes out the closet and then proceeds to go to other bedrooms to break stuff. The best ever however was the stupid counselor he ran into my room after I already trapped Jason after he broke down the door. Reset trap, counselor came running in and tripped my trap. They then hobbled away so I reset the trap. You guessed they came back and died to my trap. This store gets even more trollerific! I reset the trap with their dead body on it, Jason eventually returned to the room and tripped the trap again. He still had no idea I was hiding in the corner behind the dresser. Moral of all of this story, you can troll people as any character and it's way more fun to do if you do it with a character that no one suspects will do it from the loading screen.

I'm actually surprised this was never implemented. Instead of a lobby loading in with 6/8 they could have thrown in 2 bots to fill the lobby for that match. There's positives and negatives to this and the negatives may outweigh the positives to be honest.

Reverting Jason's grab to pre-engine upgrade. The lunge looks ridiculous. The stinger is ridiculous. Revert lighting to pre-engine upgrade. I'm either stuck playing hardly being able to see anything or adjusting my gamma and making the game look washed out. Go back to allowing Jason to body block counselors while grabbing in a group. Right now there is zero reason to ever try to grab counselors if there is a couple, or more, people in the vicinity. These three changes would get me back into playing more than once a week or so.

Your last sentence, after the comma, is my reason for this. There are plenty of people who have disposable income are big F13 nuts and are completionists in their collections. I'm curious how many of those type of people exist in this community. As well as those who've jumped into this community because Friday the 13th is great but have yet to buy the game and maybe this edition gets them to pony up the bucks.

Just trying to gauge what type of interest people have in the Collector's Edition. If you want to add a why for your answer, feel free!

I've been 150 for ages and have never paid attention to any of the songs, so you're doing better than me!

The toilet looks like a lovely place to take a dump.

I've never tried this with a cabin. I have done it with Jason's shack. Just pull up and line the car door up with the shack entrance and just hang out in the shack the rest of the game LOL I wonder if Jason keeps getting notified by mother if you go into the sweater room. I didn't ask and I'm sure the Jason player wasn't pleased with my antics.

Packanack isn't large enough for that to work, you can still sense someone out in the water from the land. The North boat exit is better to pull it off as there's little reason for a Jason to go to that shore. South, if Jason is in Flat Rock, he can sense you at the exit. After finding out that hiding in the water worked on Crystal Lake, I had to test out the other maps. Crystal Lake is the only one where you can hide out in the water and not be sensed from land.

Much ado about nothing with the 2 kills. Haven't any of you seen trailers for movies or back cover art on dvds/blurays that include scenes not in the actual movie before? Happens all the time, no big deal. I can't believe I have to come across as defending this scummy company in a situation.

That tent on packanack is perfect if you're using an epic or legendary heavy sleeper and two other sense avoidance perks. I have yet to be found in it but now that it's out in the open, if anyone really reads these forums anymore, it likely won't be a go to spot anymore. Another good spot, since we're giving up spots and all, Crystal Lake normal. Use the swimming perk to give off less pings in the water - only matters when you're going out there to be honest. Don't wait to be the last person on the map to do this. Put on a couple sense avoidance perks as well for the Jason who actually goes into the water but not all the way to the exit to use sense. 7 times out of 10 this spot works wonders. As Jason, on either of these two maps, I will now purposely check both of these spots when there's only one or two people left and haven't seen someone all match long.

I play this game for the survival aspect of it. It's a really dumbed down easy mode of a survival game but it's a fun game amongst friends. Usually I play games like Ark, 7 Days to Die and lately a bunch of Conan Exiles. For a game with a horror feel and survival aspects, I'd recommend 7 Days to Die but it's a really different type of game than this one is.

I'll do the barn trap thing at Higgins as well as a counselor if the match itself is just going horribly wrong and nothing is getting done. I'll grab the at least one medspray at the main cabin so I don't really need to care about the windows being broken. Place the three traps, and a 4th if there is one nearby, right at the barn opening and just stand in the barn seeing how long I can keep his ire. This works very well against weaker or new player Jasons and strong Jason players equally. Strong Jasons will just shift in and relegate your traps meaningless BUT they either have to tank a trap to come out of the barn to get you on the side of it or wait til they get shift again to get out safely. Meanwhile when they do, you just hop back inside the barn through the window and the game of waiting for shifts continues. if Jason tanks a trap on his way out, beeline to that trap and re-set it. You go more all out than I do, and I commend you for it!

The boat is the best method of escape for a solo player against an incompetent Jason. If you play against a competent Jason it's pretty much a death sentence and if you're playing against one of us who still need torpedoes, don't even bother with the boat, so basically any 150 Jason you come across. When I play and there's a boat on the map, I'll constantly check my map to see if the boat has moved and against a Part VIII or any other water Jason your chance of escape are nil. I could be in the process of chasing a car down and I'll still be checking the map for the boat and if the boat moves, I'll let the car go for the torpedo. The easiest method of escape for a group is to stick together and call the cops. Jason will show up to disable the fuse box but if any of you are there with a shotgun or flare, he's not stopping the call. If there are two of you with a gun, even better. The call gets made off the first shot and then everyone scatters off the second. And once that happens, Jason is in a battle against time to try and pick people off before the inevitable group up on the road where Jason has no chance to get anyone.