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    Random Randomness

    What platform (pc/ps4/xbox) are you on?
  2. Bot Kenny somehow picked up the propeller on Higgins Haven Small Xbox. This is odd for two reasons.
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    We're Still Here

    I've seen him around too! @Risinggrave and I were talking about Zap Rowsdower just last Thursday or Friday night
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    Thursday the 12th Xbox group

    @Risinggrave "I wonder if there's beer on the sun..."
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    Thursday the 12th Xbox group

    Id like to keep a regular group of people to play on thursday night's starting around 10-11 EST. This way, we can keep in touch and still get some rounds in with friends during the holding pattern of waiting for the next update. New people/veterans doesn't matter who, just try to at least CLOSE the exterior doors, please? We're not running the A/C For Jason here. Xbox G/T thatguyinktown. If you add me, at least tell me you're from the forums.
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    We're Still Here

    Abby - she's some gal
  7. As of the announcement today, Gun and Illfonic cannot release any new content until the above lawsuit is settled. The Issue The issue at its core is whether the writer of the original movie can claim ownership over the characters of Jason and elements of the first movie; Cunningham and company claim he cannot, as he was an employee who cannot claim copyright ownership, Miller “claims to be a freelance writer who wrote the first draft ‘on spec’ prior to completing the work pursuant to a screenwriting agreement.” In other words, Miller wrote and provided a first draft to producer Sean Cunningham’s company without any contract or guarantee of payment, enabling Cunningham to raise money and attract talent to proceed with the project. The parties executed a screenwriting agreement on June 4, 1979, but newly discovered evidence suggests that Miller’s first draft was already complete prior to the date of that agreement. (ipwire) Miller claims that his work was independent of Cunningham and associates, and that he was not an employee of Cunningham or Manny at the time. The movie is 38 years old, why did Miller wait so long to file a lawsuit? In accordance with the Copyright Act of 1976, authors are allowed to terminate an existing copyright after a period of 35 years, given that they were not a work for hire. A Work for hire is a work that is created by an employee as a part of their job. Miller had between June 4, 2014 and June 4, 2019 to serve a termination of copyright. So was Miller's Screenplay a "work for hire" or not? This is really the crux of the issue. While Cunningham, Manny Company, and Horror, Inc maintain that it was a work for hire drafted under a standard WGA contract, they are not able to provide the court with a copy of a contract that states that it WAS a work for hire. Further complicating matters, Miller's May 7, 1980 sale of the screenplay from Manny and Georgetown Productions, Inc does not reference the screenplay as a work for hire AND lists Miller as the sole author of the screenplay. Why and how does this affect the game now? While the developers did get the rights to the Friday the 13th series that is owned by Sean Cunningham and the company Horror, Inc, Miller's attempt to terminate the copyright agreement means that the rights for the character of Jason and elements of the first 1980 movie are currently in limbo. Miller's notice of termination lists a date of July 15 2018, at which point he would like ownership or at least credit for all works related to the character of Jason created after that date. Miller's attorney is quoted saying ""Whereas Miller will thereby recover the U.S. copyright to his original film treatment and screenplay this does not prevent the continued exploitation by Plaintiffs or their licensees of prior derivative works, including the 1980 film and its many sequels; it solely relates to new derivative works after the effective 2018 termination date,"" (Hollywood reporter article). Presumably, this includes new Friday the 13th Game Content created post July 15, 2018. But they previously said the lawsuit wouldn't affect the game? While they did mention that in a summer 2017 article, it was also assuming that the lawsuit would be decided by fall 2017 (according to Gun's statement). According to court filings, there was a motion filed in October 2017 that was granted in May 2018. The nature of the motion is not public knowledge, so it could be that the game is enjoined as a Horror, Inc asset, or it could be that a newly unearthed memo from Tom Savini requests a copy of the completed script from BEFORE Miller entered his contract with Cunningham. Either way, this is newly discovered evidence that has extended the discovery period of the case. But what does that have to do with THE GAME?!!!! Again, any released content outside of that creation window COULD be considered a new derivative work involving Miller's creation. By stopping production on new content, Gun has decided to avoid a possible legal headache where they have to renegotiate compensation to Miller for all new content, and avoiding a separate lawsuit with Miller altogether (by my estimations). Full court docket from Court Listener: https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/4497508/horror-inc-v-miller/ Cunningham and Horror, Inc filed this 45 page summary judgement in June 2017: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3863746-Friday-Cunningham.html Here is Victor Miller's 45 page summary judgement from the same date: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3863745-Friday-Miller.html Hollywood Reporter article: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/friday-13th-producer-points-writers-union-membership-bid-hold-franchise-rights-1012930 World Intellectual Property Organization's "Navigating US Copyright Termination Rights" http://www.wipo.int/wipo_magazine/en/2012/04/article_0005.html IPwire's May 2018 article on Savini's memo: http://ipwire.com/stories/the-smoking-machete-that-could-break-the-friday-the-13th-lawsuit-wide-open/ Larry Zerner (Shelly from Part 3 and current entertainment lawyer) breaks it down: http://bloody-disgusting.com/movie/3504232/part-iii-star-larry-zerner-now-lawyer-clearly-explains-messy-friday-13th-lawsuit/ I'll update this as it develops, and to correct errors.
  8. Would adding forest critters count as new content? your answer's in the question.
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    FX's The Americans Ends Tonight, A List Of The Most Memorable Kills

    The final season will be available on Amazon Prime by the end of July.
  10. -Removing a car Jack and crushing the person underneath (just like single player challenges 1) -suffocating an artist by shoving a paintbrush down her throat -stalking a man and killing him in his kitchen then slitting the throat of his wife while their kid is in the next room watching tv -shoving a tire around a pro-apartheid terrorist and lighting him on Fire -Breaking the long bones of a dead colleague to fit the whole body into a suitcase to leave a hotel -using a broken bottle to kill an alcoholic asset who wants to go to the police
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    Thursday the 12th Xbox group

    Unless youre @Super Ty
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    Thursday the 12th Xbox group

    http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/thatguyinktown/video/53533989
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    Thursday the 12th Xbox group

    I know it's late, but...yeah?
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    We're Still Here

    Yes, come join.
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    We're Still Here

    @Truth and I are online (xbox) in private for anyone who wants in.
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    If you were the judge...

    For an example of how a previous copyright termination case, this one against Marvel went down, read into this: http://nysbar.com/blogs/EASL/2014/10/kirbymarvel_settle_-_law_surro.html
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    If you were the judge...

    @Smitty_Voorhees I think it's more along the lines that until they can legally ascertain the nature of Miller's work, it still needs to be disputed. As has been stated in other articles, this is a relatively new issue with copyright law (with the 35 year long standard in place after January 1978) the earliest any copyright termination could have occurred for any instance under that law would have been January 2013.
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    If you were the judge...

    I'm not sure this portion of the statement is accurate, and is a part of the reason why the lawsuit is complicated. To my knowledge - having read both parties summary judgement statements - Miller contends his work was not classified as a work for hire, and Cunningham and co. can't provide paperwork that states that it was. Cunningham is proposing that the contracts that Miller DID sign classifies Miller's work as work for hire, despite that language not appearing anywhere in the documents.
  19. @hu_soldier13 and @Bropollocreed79 thanks for sharing, I've added the link to the original post. If only Vera and Jason could have seen his potential...
  20. Not necessarily, the floodgates were already "open" since January 2013, the first date any author (operating outside of an employment or work for hire basis) could legally terminate any copyright enacted since January 1978 (In accordance with the Copyright Act of 1976). Some existing copyrights have already been terminated, for example, some early works of Stephen King and some of the songs from The Village People.
  21. I read that article this morning too. Miller initiated the termination of copyright and Cunningham and co. countersued. I have updated the thread title accordingly.
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    We're Still Here

    I'll keep that in mind. I usually always send an invite to @Risinggrave on the off chance he's lurking in offline mode, as he tends to do
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    We're Still Here

    Got stuck after a repair once, but several squats got me out. In about 4hours of games, had the game prematurely end twice. I ended up killing Jason 4 times yesterday, and I don't even like killing him. For one of them, I taught a level 10 Tommy how to kill Jason with just two people. The Jason was AFK, as was the host, so even if we all escaped through the police, we would have still had to wait for the timer to run down otherwise. We got the mask off, and he says "Pick up the mask, don't you need the mask?" (Aww, level 10s are so cute). On another, @Zaneygrrl and @JasonSquared and I were in QP, and I repair the 2 seater all by myself as chad. Then 2 Adams steal it and drive off while Jason ignores it and kills me. I get spawned as Tommy and I'm still a bit mad about that, so I ask if they want to help me kill that teaming motherfucker. Zaney grabs the sweater, and the axe to hold onto in case my machete breaks. He's still following Jsquared, so we meet up with jason and just WAIL on him. I was able to get the kneel stun with the machete and complete the kill.
  24. @Alkavian next, we should have him explain the Dunning-Kruger effect.
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