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I hope they dont mess up part 6 and 9 Jason's face.

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At Pax West,one of the devs said that it was not an easy process when it came to make the different faces of Jason,especially part 6 since he said there was only 5-6 behind the scene pictures of that movie.

 

That answer kinda got me worried and i hope they succeed in making a face that is faithful to part 6 Jason and also part 9 since there wasnt really any actual face used for that one.

 

The thing is that there are already some peoples out there who managed to create faces/head busts of those 2 specific Jasons based on what much we were told,so why not use those as a basis for the in-game models ?

 

I already posted videos about those in the unmasking Jason topic in hope that the devs would see those to get a better understanding on how all the many Jasons look like,you can go check them out too.

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At Pax West,one of the devs said that it was not an easy process when it came to make the different faces of Jason,especially part 6 since he said there was only 5-6 behind the scene pictures of that movie.

 

That answer kinda got me worried and i hope they succeed in making a face that is faithful to part 6 Jason and also part 9 since there wasnt really any actual face used for that one.

 

The thing is that there are already some peoples out there who managed to create faces/head busts of those 2 specific Jasons based on what much we were told,so why not use those as a basis for the in-game models ?

 

I already posted videos about those in the unmasking Jason topic in hope that the devs would see those to get a better understanding on how all the many Jasons look like,you can go check them out too.

Difficult does not mean that it is not achievable, it just means it's an added challenge. It will get done, it's just the transparency that gun is trying to convey with supporters and fans.

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You should still have faith, remember when they showed comparison shots. Of one face, I notice that they added a dent around the forehead where in the original picture of the unmasked mask it didn't have one distinctive dent but it still looked good and VERY similar. You shouldn't worry, if you love how the Jason's are now and how the unmasked look looks. You should have good expectations that they will keep on shugging out Jason's like the other ones that look very similar to the movie faces of Jason. ;-)

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It's going to be exactly what you see in the film. They just couldn't get many behind-the-scenes photographs, so any details that might not be evident in the film may not be perfect, but I have a feeling they're going in frame-by-frame and will be able to replicate it at least 95%. And probably better.

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The thing is that it's a bit difficult to see the all of the details since it's pretty dark when we see his face in the movie,and there's is like what 1 picture behind the scene of the actor wearing the makeup tough the picture quality is a bit low.

 

This here is what the devs should take more attention to since some peoples out there already tried to make a head bust based on what little informations and picture refferences we have.Even the little figurine of part 6 Jason that you can get is also based on that face model.

 

 

As for part 9,well there are some variations created by fans on how he could have looked like based on some details and rumors from the peoples who made the film,even tough Kane Hodder didnt wear a full face mask. (only the head and the right eye were covered,the other 3/4 was Kane's natural face tough they did made is left eye lids red.)

 

 

here's behind the scenes of Jason goes to hell with one of the picture showing Kane makeup without the hockey mask.

 

http://www.fridaythe13thfranchise.com/2011/04/behind-scenes-jason-goes-to-hell.html

 

and some other head busts/masks videos 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5y5uKR0I_k

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So now the Jason part 6 model is out here's are my toughts,most of the model look fine and the undead face is perfect,tough there is something off about the hockey mask and the pants,here's a video about Paul Phoenix talking about it,also to see how the zombie face look like...

 

 

I'll be fair i also think he is right when it come to the color of the hockey mask and the pants,the mask look too yellowish,when in the movie it look more like white,not exactly pure white but definitely white with a really slight tint of beige.

 

I also think that the pants are also not the right color,they are not beige,they seem to be more grey (like part 3 and 4) with a bit of muds here and there but in no way they are beige.

 

Those are pretty much the only problems with the model,tough from what i saw peoples comment and Paul saying the mask seem to have other missing details,like the nose being a bit too round and some scratches missing,but so far everything else about the models is perfect,only the colors on the mask and pants seem to need a fix.

 

What are your toughts ? Would like to hear the devs toughts on this too,thank you.

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I love the model. I understand that it does look a BIT off, but I can't complain really, with the tassels, bullet holes and wounds, and face looking great as they do. The mask may be slightly more yellow, but it's not really as white as many may remember. Remember when it's in the back of Tommy's truck? That's pretty gold. But I can see it being lightened a little. The pants are probably only that because of the lighting. In the dark, I think it'll look screen accurate. I am most excited to play Part VI Jason of the 4, even if I think the film is so-so. Something about his outfit I always loved.

 

Compare and contrast with the upper video I guess -

 

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The lighting we're working on right now makes things look a bit off, but the shape of the mask is good to go. We had access to one of the hero masks. 

 

Remember, there's several masks from that movie, and two different people played Jason (Dan Bradley and C.J Graham). Dan was a bit bigger in the gut and face and his mask is different. A lot of people look at Dan's Jason as 'Fat Jason,' and his mask reflects as such. Our mask is modeled on the one used the most in the movie, with the additional bullet hole. 

 

This mask is one of our best, besides the color issue which we're working on. Same with the overall costume. 

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The picture shown by Body Boy,you can clearly see that the mask isnt has yellow like on the model shown in the virtual cabin.

 

It definitely look more like a pale beige with bits of white here and there,as if it was basicaly a white mask wich got a bit dirty.

 

The mask right now look like the part 8 mask colorwise,like Body Boy suggested it would be considerable to make it paler like in the film.

 

I dont mind the shape of the mask,as long as the color of both mask and pants get a fix.

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I know my 2 cents probably doesn't amount to a hill of skulls, but I can deal with the yellowish mask. I can deal with off-color pants.

 

HOWEVER, regardless of what they say, hero-mask or not... you'd have to be blind to stubbornly say, when looking at that film screengrab against the model in Paul Pheonix's video, that the mask is accurate.

That damn nose area on the mask is WAY OFF.

No matter what jason mask you use from the film (Dan Bradley or C.J Graham) you can hold up side by side a screengrab against the model they have and see it is not right. They may indeed have had access to a hero mask, but the modeler or digital artist on the sculpt got it wrong.

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So i've been looking around again,checking everything related to part 6 Jason to make sure,by looking at the movie,figurines and cosplays.

 

So yeah,the mask does seem to be kinda a light 'cream' when it come to the color,not too yellow and not too white.

 

As for the pants,they seem to be somewhere between grey and kaki brown,but not beige that i am sure of.

 

Everything else is alright,the gloves are ok,the shirt is ok,the boots are ok and the skin is ok.

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I guess the pants were supposed to be khaki when the coroner was dressing him for burial, and time turned them more grey while he was in the ground. The shirt seems to have been green, like forest green(lol), like the Part 3 & 4 shirt, and time in the ground turned that almost black.

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The thing is that it's a bit difficult to see the all of the details since it's pretty dark when we see his face in the movie,and there's is like what 1 picture behind the scene of the actor wearing the makeup tough the picture quality is a bit low.

 

This here is what the devs should take more attention to since some peoples out there already tried to make a head bust based on what little informations and picture refferences we have.Even the little figurine of part 6 Jason that you can get is also based on that face model.

 

 

As for part 9,well there are some variations created by fans on how he could have looked like based on some details and rumors from the peoples who made the film,even tough Kane Hodder didnt wear a full face mask. (only the head and the right eye were covered,the other 3/4 was Kane's natural face tough they did made is left eye lids red.)

 

 

here's behind the scenes of Jason goes to hell with one of the picture showing Kane makeup without the hockey mask.

 

http://www.fridaythe13thfranchise.com/2011/04/behind-scenes-jason-goes-to-hell.html

 

and some other head busts/masks videos 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5y5uKR0I_k

 

It's so lame how the films kept screwing up the continuity of Jason's face. Depending on the film you watch, either his right eye or left eye will be the one messed up or not there. But it changes from film to film. Just the two videos you posted here proves they didn't know what they were doing. 

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It's so lame how the films kept screwing up the continuity of Jason's face. Depending on the film you watch, either his right eye or left eye will be the one messed up or not there. But it changes from film to film. Just the two videos you posted here proves they didn't know what they were doing.

This is true and I wonder if the devs of the game will rectify that and make them uniform in that area or if they're just going to go film accurate with the discrepancies and all.

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This is true and I wonder if the devs of the game will rectify that and make them uniform in that area or if they're just going to go film accurate with the discrepancies and all.

 

Something tells me they're going to go movie accurate for each one, so depending on which Jason you are, the eyes will alter from which one is the messed up one and which one isn't. 

 

I hope though that the eyes are more generally shadowed through the mask. Especially all the Zombie Jasons eyes. You don't have to play the video below, but just look at the shot of Part 6 Jason and how clearly you can see his eye through the mask. I don't recall being able to see his eyes that clearly in the film. I hope they fix it. 

 

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Something tells me they're going to go movie accurate for each one, so depending on which Jason you are, the eyes will alter from which one is the messed up one and which one isn't.

 

I hope though that the eyes are more generally shadowed through the mask. Especially all the Zombie Jasons eyes. You don't have to play the video below, but just look at the shot of Part 6 Jason and how clearly you can see his eye through the mask. I don't recall being able to see his eyes that clearly in the film. I hope they fix it.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDAKpNgyv24

I think the dark lighting will solve that issue for the most part though.

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The JGTH look is the only one where they got the wrong eye missing, I believe. All the others got it right.

 

I'm hoping like hell they switch the eye on that one, it's always been one of my personal most wanted details for the game. One case where keeping faithful to the movie isn't what I'd prefer!

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The JGTH look is the only one where they got the wrong eye missing, I believe. All the others got it right.

 

I'm hoping like hell they switch the eye on that one, it's always been one of my personal most wanted details for the game. One case where keeping faithful to the movie isn't what I'd prefer!

 

No, Part 8 and Part 7 also got it wrong. Especially if you go by Parts 2-4. It's the right eye that was originally messed up. Then when he became Zombie Jason they seemingly switched it. (Especially in Part 8 where it showed him as a child (flashback) and they totally got it backwards)

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^you got it wrong.part 7 and 8 did not get it wrong. If anything part 7 had the most accurate Jason damage. The director stated he wanted to include all damage fron every past friday film up till then. Part 4s eye loss is evident and "right eye" is gone in 6,7, and 8. Technically onscreen to us it looks like right to us. It is actually his left eye though.

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The thing is that Part 1,2,3 and 4 versions of Jason head/face followed a concept design that Tom Savini created,but when part 6 came out,that concept design was kinda changed,same for part 7 and 8,then changed even more with part 9.

 

Only Jason X,Freddy VS Jason and 2009 Remake got back to something similar to the design made by Tom Savini.

 

If we follow Tom concept,Jason is supposed to have a deformed head shape wich is bigger than a normal head shape,a deformed derpy/sloppy right eye wich is a bit lower than his normal left eye,a deformed nose,deformed mouths with mishapen teeths and i think one of the ear is also deformed.

 

While it's true that zombie Jason (part 6,7,8 and 9) had all the damages he received from Part 2,3 and 4,his facial designs are not the same even tough it's decomposed.

 

To start off,Part 6,7 and 8 changed his right deformed eye into a normal eye making it like his left eye was his deformed eye all along,part 6,8 and 9 doesnt seem to have the right eye lower than the left eye except part 7 and the kid version in part 8.

 

The shape of the head on part 6,7 and 8 (except part 8 kid version and part 9) doesnt look deformed,it's true that his skin decomposed but the shape of the top part of his head skull should not be like a normal person.

 

For the nose and mouth,since part 6,7 and 8 doesnt have a nose it's impossible to know if it was originaly deformed,same thing for part 6 Jason mouth since the lower lip is falling down sideway a bit because of the decomposition and the teeths doesnt look mishapen,part 7 and 8 mouth on the other hand have mishapen teeths,so we have proof that Part 7 and 8 Jason had a deformed mouth with mishapen teeths.

 

Then finally there is part 9 wich somehow whoever made that 'look' decided to make the right eye the one that he is missing and added back his normal left eye as if he never received a machete on that one.

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^you got it wrong.part 7 and 8 did not get it wrong. If anything part 7 had the most accurate Jason damage. The director stated he wanted to include all damage fron every past friday film up till then. Part 4s eye loss is evident and "right eye" is gone in 6,7, and 8. Technically onscreen to us it looks like right to us. It is actually his left eye though.

 

No, they definitely got it wrong, see:

 

Part 1: (Right side is messed up)

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Part 2: (bad eye is on the right side, lower than the other)

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Part 4: (bad eye still on right side, still slightly lower)

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Part 7: (Now they're switched, right eye is normal level, bad eye is on the left)

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Part 8: (totally backwards)

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Part 8: (Wrong again)

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Ok 80s Ill give you that much.Also we have a misunderstanding. In part 4 Jason took a machete to his left eye. This missing eye is accurate in part 6,7, and 8 on the correct side. In JGTH the missing eye switched and in JX he miraculously grew the eye back. Then had it again in FVJ. The droopiness is gone by the time he was resurrected. The eye is not missing due to a deformity or because it is "bad". Tommy cut that sucker out. But...judging by the models Gun has shown the missing eye is accurate. They should take it upon themselves to make JGTH face have the correct missing eye. Not how it is in the film.

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