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  1. When the Jasons were first shown off Jason 7 was the one I wanted to use most. Awesome look, uses the machete, lumbering part skeleton man going around chasing counselors. Sounds great, right? Sadly in game his stats just do not allow him to do enough. Oh his hidden hearing and boosted sense let him see everyone. I guess that's ok? When you can't catch up to people because you're a zombie Jason and the main mode of transportation for said zombie Jasons has a longer cool down, slower speed, shorter distance traveled, and shorter duration, you're screwed. The car is impossible to catch. It's also impossible to deal with the car before it gets started because you only have 3 traps. I really hope you guys are looking in to completely reworking his stats. I don't mind if he's a slow Jason. You could ditch grip strength and sense (both are useless because you can instantly kill counselors when you grab them and sense can be turned off early to cooldown when turned off), and replaced with boosted traps and stalk. Then you remove his trap and shift weaknesses, swap them with defense or stun resistance, and he'd be viable. Perhaps a strength that makes him get Rage really fast, called Enrage? That's just me brain storming and not in any way something to take consider as a fix. I'm just a guy who wants Jason 7 to be on par with the other Jasons but his tools just do not allow it. I don't feel like a menacing threat as Jason 7, I feel like Jason from the first movie drowning while the counselors stand on the dock and laugh. Whatever you do, please please please rework his stats. At the very least get rid of the penalty to shift. No Zombie Jason should have a weakness to shift. You guys are working hard to fix various bugs, make new content, but you've never once mentioned tweaking the Jasons stats. Everyone feels 7 is by far the worst due to no movement options, strengths that really don't benefit his lack of movement options, and weaknesses that just hinder him further with his lack of movement options. Yes I know some people can kill 12 out of 8 counselors with Jason 7 because they're just that badass, but the simple fact is he is undoubtedly the weakest Jason and the hardest to catch people as. Not asking that he be the best, just on par with the others. As is Jason 7 is a sad boy. You don't want poor ol' Jason 7 to be a sad boy, do ya?
  2. Supposedly according to ine of the deva its a technique in whicb if tge Jaaon player grabs a counselor at the same time as he goes into shift he'll transport thw counselor with him....never seen it done has anyone else??
  3. I would really love if we were able to run Jason over with the car, it would make it for some extremely exciting moments, like instead of when you hit Jason he automatically does the smash animation it should be, the only way he smashes the car is if he hits the button comand at the right time and when hes coming out of shift. And I also would LOVE if they gave Jason more ways to attack besides just grabbing for a kill animation and/or slashing, what if Jason could grab counselors and throw them across the room, that would be great, or back hand them the way he did Kelly Rowland in Freddy vs Jason. It would certainly help when a group of counselors surround Jason and jump him lol
  4. I love Friday the 13th, It's a fantastic game. The gameplay is amazing! The patches are great! New content is phenomenal! There's only one thing that ruins it for me and the rest of the F13 community....And that is "Shift Grabbing". I can't stand getting shift grabbed, there's no way getting out of it, unless you have a pocket knife. It would be really cool if Jason could get a cooldown for grabs coming right out of the shift. Jason has a cooldown for throwing knives, so how about a cooldown for grabbing after a shift. I think it would be a great solution for shift grabbing. I think it's ridiculous that Jason can appear out of nowhere like a wizard and BOOM! You're dead. I get it Jason is OP, but shift grabbing makes him more OP than he is. Especially, when there's no counter-play to a shift grab. Nobody likes dying randomly off a shift grab. Neither do they like having no way to counter it, besides pocket knife. Here are some great links for everybody to check out. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/F13thegame/comments/6da722/concern_instant_grabkill_after_shift_will_annoy/ http://forum.f13game.com/index.php?/topic/2720-jason-shift-insta-grab-problem-how-to-fix/ That's enough ranting from me ? Everyone have a good night and enjoy killing counselors/escaping Jason.
  5. When jason is inside a house he can use shift and he will dissapear and shows up just in front of the counselor, thats a bit unfair because counselors have a weak stamina, they barely can run and jason can teleport everywhere very easy HE IS NOT SLENDERMAN he is Jason, he cant dissapear when he is inside a house, its better if you see him walking to you and there is more suspense. Also when you let the doors open and Jason uses shift ability for get inside fast it would be an invisible wall for him in the door frame. Thanks for reading. Offtopic: the shift + grab should be removed by making a cooldown for grab when he finishes the shift ability, and that would happen with all his abilities, cooldowns for all skills when he finish one of them.
  6. Some bugs report: - I have experienced various freezing/crashes just after Jason´s Morph. One time per day, at least. - Sometimes I start the game as a counselor and try to open the map (I have map perk) and the game freezes / crash. - When I am starting the car, if I hit the map button, sometimes the map stay fixed on the screen and I cant drive. - When I was Jason, I grabed a guy and all my executions was blocked... I was walking with the guy for about a minute until the executions turned on again. - There are various problems with turning on and turning off Jason´s skills and Jason´s map in sequence... This actions seems to be triggering bugs. One time my Shift becomes blocked half of the match. PC - Windows - Steam
  7. Hello forums, I've received a bug today and would like to report it. The bug is that after Jason used his shift ability (short range teleport) the game freezes when jason reappears from the ability. This happened three times today, allways when he got out of his shift ability. Best regards, Sunny Solaire Platform: PC GPU/CPU: nVidia GTX 980, i7-6670K
  8. *Reposting this here because I think other one was in wrong section First, allow me to say that I've been hearing this not only on this forum, but many message boards and it is most definitely the biggest elephant in the room regarding strict game-play concerns. Getting right into the topic; SHIFT-GRAB INTO INSTANT KILLS IS NOT OVERPOWERED. It may seem like an overpowered cheesy tactic at first, but over time in the context of the actual game through higher levels later down the road, it is actually needed to keep Jason "competitive". I cannot fathom with how many players come to the conclusion of "wow, this tactic is so unfair and should be removed" by playing random pub games online or a night with friends. Have any of you actually ever played against an entire team of COMPETITIVE counselors that know what they're doing and how to play the game at a very serious level? It is very difficult to stop a team from surviving in this game and over the course of getting to play against MANY competitive players together (some very good old school team-orientated survival competitive players over the years from LEFT 4 DEAD, DBD, etc.) Once you are put to the test against SEVEN OTHER competitive survivors constantly and grinding the games in and out, you realize some of the flaws and disadvantages that a team can pick apart and abuse on the Jason user. And NO, I am not talking about searching in public games randomly until you find a team of people using "mics", it's much deeper and more complicated than that. Let's quickly breakdown why shift-grab deaths are needed: 1.) It's Jason's best and only way to successfully kill a counselor more often than not (unless they have a pocket knife, which completely negates this option) wasting 2-3 minutes trying to kill a counselor juking, stalling, or receiving your full attention is VERY detrimental to the overall pace of the game and most often must be abandoned to multi-task other areas and ensure openings do not happen. Keep in mind you only have 20 minutes to kill each survivor, so you can't possibly spend close to three minutes trying to chase, attack, and kill each one. 2.) Counselors out run and maneuver Jason throughout most of the game which would make him almost completely useless if it were not for skills such as morphing, shifting, and throwing knives. Map morphing and throwing knives while they are indeed "options", are in no way reliable or comparable to the viability of shift. A counselor that knows what they're doing is going to be zig-zagging, feinting, cross-path juking, bluffing their movements, 180 quick turns, etc. which Jason it is not as simple as "just shift grab and kill", you must PREDICT the counselors movements ahead of time and make a BALLSY read which forces you to COMMIT. Yes, it is easy to grab predictable players in public search that don't have many hours put into the game and are just playing on their Friday night off for some fun. It is entirely different to successfully grab and read movements from a competitive player that knows the map and generated random layouts in and out. 3.) Against competitive groups playing together the tactical stalling and defense trying to make an open can be severely difficult and time consuming which is why banking for a shift-grab kill every time it's off cooldown is sometimes the ONLY offense opportunity you can get. If they have weapons, flare guns, shotgun, firecrackers, etc. this is all going to be very time consuming and force each of your attempts in a manner of "make it count". Let me ask you, how on Earth would you (as Jason) even attempt to kill a team of counselors together with melee items such as bats, machete, etc. without shift grab? You are most likely going to be eating a LOT of stuns and wasting a LOT of valuable time in which other counselors can heavily take advantage of the scenario. It is not fun and very demoralizing. Especially in the way that this scenario is quite common and easy to recreate at high levels. 4.) You must multi-task the map and always be aware of other counselors and their options, agendas, and what their plans may be. ALWAYS have to keep the house with the phone section trapped, and be knowledgeable as a few seconds off your focus shift could mean a VERY bad and early game with a call getting through. This means as Jason the most optimal way to play is with background noise boosted so you can hear if phone is tethered, picked up, car engine starting, etc. BY THE WAY (IMPORTANT) - The negative penalties of 'sound ques' of counselors messing up with gas, battery, etc. barely does not happen at a high and competitive level as counselors with high repair are almost ALWAYS in charge of performing these duties and have cover to back them. 5.) PERKS, MY GOD PERKS! If there's something you want to complain that is actually "OP", well here you go! Before you read this section KEEP IN MIND that everything prior to this and strictly based on if "Jason shift grab is OP" or not has been conducted and tested WITHOUT THE USE OF PERKS! We attempted to play some "high level competitive" F13 using some of the best perks... and well let's just say the games did not end up being very competitive and was more of a headache and disaster for the Jason player way too many times than not. Having seven competitive players start with Epic Perk Double healing and First Aid sprays is COMPLETELY BROKEN and made if you did not instant kill a counselor with shift-grab, you had virtually no chance to overall damage, cripple, and kill a counselor. Total imbalance with perks which I'm sure that is how the developers intended to be and not directly affect the core balance of the game. I'm sure it can get much worse with combination of perks amongst a team of seven counselors. Look, we understand F13 is not meant to be played with eight competitive players playing as if it were an actual tournament or the finals play offs to something similar to a superbowl. We know that F13 is mainly made for public game searching, having fun with strangers, and seeing hectic things go afloat that Jason takes advantage of. In public games as counselors you have to worry about team killers (friendly fire), people not knowing the map, players with not much experience / hours, terrible decision makers, lone wolves, language barriers etc. etc. These are all natural pub problems that do NOT EXIST in a competitive environment of a full team of players playing F13 together which is probably what makes it so excruciatingly hard for Jason. Here's the catch, we believe a team of counselors playing properly gives Jason a MUCH more difficult time with the ratio being they TOO OFTEN survive with a few being shift-grabbed killed (if it happens). We think F13 is a VERY FUN and enjoyable game we just wish it was a bit more balanced for the higher level players who like to play games very seriously and competitively. Would some smaller buffs to Jason and some fixes to things we think this game will be AMAZING at a competitive level. Jason could use some buffs or reworks and I hope if any developers read this they may think of possible ideas to implement or something they like here: JASON BUFFS FOR FUTURE: 1.) THROWING KNIVES - They're good for what they are but main downside is sometimes it can be too time consuming to pick one up unless you're just waiting for morph to appear back and there happens to be a knife next to your current location. They also do not have any headshot advantages and sometimes it takes three or more knife tosses to have a counselor enter "cripple" state. - Having a bit less of a collecting animation and recovery. (or add this as a possible perk for a new Jason) - Inflicting more damage. Two throwing knives to the chest area seems reasonable to always put a counselor in cripple state. (or add this as a possible perk for a new Jason) - Add headshot capabilities with throwing knives that will either instant kill a counselor or immediately put them in the cripple state if headshot. (or add this as a possible perk for a new Jason) 2.) TRAPS - Ability to recover or pick up traps (or add this as a possible perk for a new Jason) - Ability to place down a "fake" bait trap with just leaves. These could be set to expire after 30 seconds to a minute or so to prevent abuse. Max of two "fake" traps out at a time. (or add this as a possible perk for a new Jason) - Ability to place traps on the boat dock 3.) TIMER - Add lobby option or ability to increase timer from 20 minutes to 25 minutes or 30 minutes for players that want a bit of a challenge (or add this as a possible perk for a new Jason) 4.) "Ki, ki ki, ma, ma, ma" - Give Jason a new ability to create fog on the map that will make the counselors mini-map on screen freeze temporarily or for him to select an "area" on the map to engulf in fog and the "Ki, ki, ki, ma, ma, ma" sound queus. This would be used as a bait to alert or potential scare / play mindgames with a group of survivors at a part of the map to make them THINK you're there and maybe force them to play defensively WHILE you deal with the current group or have them flee their original plans. In the fog area Jason sounds alert music would be disabled so this would make it ambiguous. Right now, there is NO way to effectively deal with two groups of survivors on a mission, you have to pick and choose your poison and let one of them get away with doing something. This would be a great alternative to add an extra layer or mindgames that counselors would have to think about and buy the bluff or not. That is all for now. Thanks for reading. Back to playing more F13... If any of you are curious or believe "Jason shift-grab is OP and must go", I invite you to PLEASE COME PLAY with my group and we will guarantee after some games you will start to see it is very different when you're up against a group of competitive counselors and not random casuals in public search strictly playing to have some fun. None of us run any perks while playing, we all play the game with vanilla counselor stats and defaults to not skew balance and keep it on even and consistent playing fields. We all play on Steam (PC) and we have a serious group of over ten competitive players pouring hours and hours into this game each day grinding together.
  9. Being able to control the "shift" ability more accurately will prevent some of the issues with people running around tables, couches, chairs, cars etc to avoid getting caught. For example, when you activate shift, being able to control moving forward and backwards, instead of instantly being shot ahead at a high rate of speed and getting stuck on fences, doorways and similar objects. Shift duration remains the same, however you can control your speed by the amount you push the thumb stick forward or backward. To even things up, maybe increase the cool down or reduce the duration.
  10. First, allow me to say that I've been hearing this not only on this forum, but many message boards and it is most definitely the biggest elephant in the room regarding strict game-play concerns. Getting right into the topic; SHIFT-GRAB INTO INSTANT KILLS IS NOT OVERPOWERED. It may seem like an overpowered cheesy tactic at first, but over time in the context of the actual game through higher levels later down the road, it is actually needed to keep Jason "competitive". I cannot fathom with how many players come to the conclusion of "wow, this tactic is so unfair and should be removed" by playing random pub games online or a night with friends. Have any of you actually ever played against an entire team of COMPETITIVE counselors that know what they're doing and how to play the game at a very serious level? It is very difficult to stop a team from surviving in this game and over the course of getting to play against MANY competitive players together (some very good old school team-orientated survival competitive players over the years from LEFT 4 DEAD, DBD, etc.) Once you are put to the test against SEVEN OTHER competitive survivors constantly and grinding the games in and out, you realize some of the flaws and disadvantages that a team can pick apart and abuse on the Jason user. And NO, I am not talking about searching in public games randomly until you find a team of people using "mics", it's much deeper and more complicated than that. Let's quickly breakdown why shift-grab deaths are needed: 1.) It's Jason's best and only way to successfully kill a counselor more often than not (unless they have a pocket knife, which completely negates this option) wasting 2-3 minutes trying to kill a counselor juking, stalling, or receiving your full attention is VERY detrimental to the overall pace of the game and most often must be abandoned to multi-task other areas and ensure openings do not happen. Keep in mind you only have 20 minutes to kill each survivor, so you can't possibly spend close to three minutes trying to chase, attack, and kill each one. 2.) Counselors out run and maneuver Jason throughout most of the game which would make him almost completely useless if it were not for skills such as morphing, shifting, and throwing knives. Map morphing and throwing knives while they are indeed "options", are in no way reliable or comparable to the viability of shift. A counselor that knows what they're doing is going to be zig-zagging, feinting, cross-path juking, bluffing their movements, 180 quick turns, etc. which Jason it is not as simple as "just shift grab and kill", you must PREDICT the counselors movements ahead of time and make a BALLSY read which forces you to COMMIT. Yes, it is easy to grab predictable players in public search that don't have many hours put into the game and are just playing on their Friday night off for some fun. It is entirely different to successfully grab and read movements from a competitive player that knows the map and generated random layouts in and out. 3.) Against competitive groups playing together the tactical stalling and defense trying to make an open can be severely difficult and time consuming which is why banking for a shift-grab kill every time it's off cooldown is sometimes the ONLY offense opportunity you can get. If they have weapons, flare guns, shotgun, firecrackers, etc. this is all going to be very time consuming and force each of your attempts in a manner of "make it count". Let me ask you, how on Earth would you (as Jason) even attempt to kill a team of counselors together with melee items such as bats, machete, etc. without shift grab? You are most likely going to be eating a LOT of stuns and wasting a LOT of valuable time in which other counselors can heavily take advantage of the scenario. It is not fun and very demoralizing. Especially in the way that this scenario is quite common and easy to recreate at high levels. 4.) You must multi-task the map and always be aware of other counselors and their options, agendas, and what their plans may be. ALWAYS have to keep the house with the phone section trapped, and be knowledgeable as a few seconds off your focus shift could mean a VERY bad and early game with a call getting through. This means as Jason the most optimal way to play is with background noise boosted so you can hear if phone is tethered, picked up, car engine starting, etc. BY THE WAY (IMPORTANT) - The negative penalties of 'sound ques' of counselors messing up with gas, battery, etc. barely does not happen at a high and competitive level as counselors with high repair are almost ALWAYS in charge of performing these duties and have cover to back them. 5.) PERKS, MY GOD PERKS! If there's something you want to complain that is actually "OP", well here you go! Before you read this section KEEP IN MIND that everything prior to this and strictly based on if "Jason shift grab is OP" or not has been conducted and tested WITHOUT THE USE OF PERKS! We attempted to play some "high level competitive" F13 using some of the best perks... and well let's just say the games did not end up being very competitive and was more of a headache and disaster for the Jason player way too many times than not. Having seven competitive players start with Epic Perk Double healing and First Aid sprays is COMPLETELY BROKEN and made if you did not instant kill a counselor with shift-grab, you had virtually no chance to overall damage, cripple, and kill a counselor. Total imbalance with perks which I'm sure that is how the developers intended to be and not directly affect the core balance of the game. I'm sure it can get much worse with combination of perks amongst a team of seven counselors. Look, we understand F13 is not meant to be played with eight competitive players playing as if it were an actual tournament or the finals play offs to something similar to a superbowl. We know that F13 is mainly made for public game searching, having fun with strangers, and seeing hectic things go afloat that Jason takes advantage of. In public games as counselors you have to worry about team killers (friendly fire), people not knowing the map, players with not much experience / hours, terrible decision makers, lone wolves, language barriers etc. etc. These are all natural pub problems that do NOT EXIST in a competitive environment of a full team of players playing F13 together which is probably what makes it so excruciatingly hard for Jason. Here's the catch, we believe a team of counselors playing properly gives Jason a MUCH more difficult time with the ratio being they TOO OFTEN survive with a few being shift-grabbed killed (if it happens). We think F13 is a VERY FUN and enjoyable game we just wish it was a bit more balanced for the higher level players who like to play games very seriously and competitively. Would some smaller buffs to Jason and some fixes to things we think this game will be AMAZING at a competitive level. Jason could use some buffs or reworks and I hope if any developers read this they may think of possible ideas to implement or something they like here: JASON BUFFS FOR FUTURE: 1.) THROWING KNIVES - They're good for what they are but main downside is sometimes it can be too time consuming to pick one up unless you're just waiting for morph to appear back and there happens to be a knife next to your current location. They also do not have any headshot advantages and sometimes it takes three or more knife tosses to have a counselor enter "cripple" state. - Having a bit less of a collecting animation and recovery. (or add this as a possible perk for a new Jason) - Inflicting more damage. Two throwing knives to the chest area seems reasonable to always put a counselor in cripple state. (or add this as a possible perk for a new Jason) - Add headshot capabilities with throwing knives that will either instant kill a counselor or immediately put them in the cripple state if headshot. (or add this as a possible perk for a new Jason) 2.) TRAPS - Ability to recover or pick up traps (or add this as a possible perk for a new Jason) - Ability to place down a "fake" bait trap with just leaves. These could be set to expire after 30 seconds to a minute or so to prevent abuse. Max of two "fake" traps out at a time. (or add this as a possible perk for a new Jason) - Ability to place traps on the boat dock 3.) TIMER - Add lobby option or ability to increase timer from 20 minutes to 25 minutes or 30 minutes for players that want a bit of a challenge (or add this as a possible perk for a new Jason) 4.) "Ki, ki ki, ma, ma, ma" - Give Jason a new ability to create fog on the map that will make the counselors mini-map on screen freeze temporarily or for him to select an "area" on the map to engulf in fog and the "Ki, ki, ki, ma, ma, ma" sound queus. This would be used as a bait to alert or potential scare / play mindgames with a group of survivors at a part of the map to make them THINK you're there and maybe force them to play defensively WHILE you deal with the current group or have them flee their original plans. In the fog area Jason sounds alert music would be disabled so this would make it ambiguous. Right now, there is NO way to effectively deal with two groups of survivors on a mission, you have to pick and choose your poison and let one of them get away with doing something. This would be a great alternative to add an extra layer or mindgames that counselors would have to think about and buy the bluff or not. That is all for now. Thanks for reading. Back to playing more F13... If any of you are curious or believe "Jason shift-grab is OP and must go", I invite you to PLEASE COME PLAY with my group and we will guarantee after some games you will start to see it is very different when you're up against a group of competitive counselors and not random casuals in public search strictly playing to have some fun. None of us run any perks while playing, we all play the game with vanilla counselor stats and defaults to not skew balance and keep it on even and consistent playing fields. We all play on Steam (PC) and we have a serious group of over ten competitive players pouring hours and hours into this game each day grinding together.
  11. I need help to deal with cars. How exactly Jason deals with cars? He can stop cars from behind? Touch a car is enough to stop it? I am frustrated with a technique that is beginning to become popular among car drivers. The counsellors are driving in reverse toward the exit ... When Jason appears, they stop and move forward toward the opposite exit. And repeating this until Jason losts. I have not yet succeeded in stopping the cars in this kind of maneuver. I think It takes a combination of Shift and Morph. But it's been difficult for me to use the morph exactly for the spot I want on the road. Several times Jason appears off the road and I miss valuable seconds. How you have been dealing with this kind of situation? How Jason works against cars? It seems like I'm playing really bad... lol
  12. Let me start off by saying that so far I'm loving this game despite server issues and bugs, but the issue I'm having is that I feel like Jason's powers need some adjusting. Specifically the shift ability. I understand that Jason is a powerhouse and needs to be to make this game work and remain fun, but when you can just use shift and float up on campers and instantly grab them and hit em with an Insta kill it kinda ruins it for me. It's awful when you're a camper trying to evade Jason, and it's boring when playing as Jason when all you need to do is use shift. So I have a few ideas to balance it out. Idea 1: make Jason unable to grab campers immediately upon exiting his shift. This would make it much less broken in my opinion. It'll give the campers a chance to realize that Jason is there before death inevitably comes for them. Idea 2: Make shift the power that charges up during the game in place of rage and make rage and regular ability with a 3 or 4 second duration and a longer than normal cooldown. By the time rage charges it just feels very underwhelming since campers have either escaped or are no longer trying to hide in houses. I have never been in a situation where I've gone "FINALLY I HAVE RAGE I CAN KILL THE REST OF THE CAMPERS!" Shift just feels like the end all beat all of Jason's abilities. Let me just be clear that I'm not complaining that Jason is overpowered. He's supposed to be. I just think the shift grab is makes the game a little boring
  13. I've been giving this some thought and I think the shift ability may need a tune up. It's hard to say having not played but I have watched more than a few beta videos. It seems like he gets stuck on a lot of world objects while shifting. I'm assuming this is because they stop drawing the model but he's still actually there leaving this giant hit box to collide with everything in its path. And he can't shift over simple things like fences or the car which could be an issue. I have a few possible options to throw out here: Smaller spherical hitbox Give him a smaller or spherical or both hit box that if positioned a few feet off of ground so he can roll around objects. This would allow him to roll around trees over fences and even over the car. I mention the car because I purposed a scenario where vehicles could be used to block off buildings keeping Jason from being able to get in. This would fix that in some instances. If the hit box was small enough and positioned at about window height he would be able to shift through ground floor windows. This might be cool because he can't climb through windows and the ability is limited enough to prevent over use. This would solve all the issues I brought up with the car earlier I think. Freeroam This would be the same as above but would allow Jason to move up and down freely while shifting rather than just rolling over the terrain. This would give him the ability to shift through upstairs windows. These options would allow for a smoother shift without getting stuck on environmental objects. It also adds a new strategy to the game. Do I leave the window open? I haven't worked out all the details but I would say that Jason would not be able to shift through a broken window, only opened windows. And the freeroam could be used to get on top of buildings this could be a problem but I don't see it really being one. If anything Jason jumping down from the roof would be scary as s***. These could affect the shift grab but you would just need to become more practiced in it. If there's anything I overlooked or you have anything to add or see any problems I'm always up for a good discussion.